Episode 003 "Pancake Batter"



Isabel: Hello and welcome to this week’s PattyCast. I’m Isabel.

Joy: And I’m Joy Tara: And I’m Tara. Bahaha.

[“Toccata and Fugue“-Bach Plays]

[Laughter]

Joy: Oh, wow.

Isabel: Happy Halloween!

Joy: Happy Halloween! Tara: Happy Halloween, guys!

Isabel: Happy Halloween everybody, and happy birthday to Pattinson Online, we turn three November 1st

Joy: Yay, happy birthday! Wooooo! Tara: Happy birthday to us!

Isabel: We are really awesome. It’s been a long ride, I would say. Some parts were much longer than others, but we’re glad that we’re here, and we’re glad that we’re reaching more people now than we have been before, so thanks for sticking to us, those who’ve been with us since the beginning, and for all the new fans, thanks for coming on board. So we have a lot to talk about tonight, so why don’t we start with Little Ashes, do a run down on his movies, first. Does anyone wanna start talking about Little Ashes, in general, in Spain, like, what people had to say, anything like that? Tara: There wasn’t really that much coverage.

Isabel: Well there wasn’t much coverage, at all.

Joy: No.

Isabel: There’s not much coverage of Little Ashes, anyway, but at least we got new stills this week. Those were pretty cool Tara: That’s true.

Joy: When he was in Mexico, he did talk a little bit about the role. He’s just saying it’s really, really different, he says, “I think even though for some reason he turned into a very strange man,” he says, “I felt I could identify with him when he was young, and I started seeing myself as more like him in the movie, which is a little strange.” So, you know, I think as he was filming he was kind of really getting into the role, which we know from what we’ve seen that he does really get into these parts that he plays, you know?

Isabel: Yeah

Joy: Really takes them seriously, and I think this is gonna be a really different movie from what we’ve seen. Seems like kind of an obvious statement, but I have a feeling that we’re all gonna be really surprised by what he does in this film cuz it’s gonna be so different.

Isabel: Yeah, I’m really excited to see it, and I’m glad that it’s different because it’s---like you said , he’s got such a great acting range, and it’d be nice to see him in something that wasn’t like his usual, typical, heroic role, right? Of just being the good-looking guy, or whatever.

Joy: Yeah. Tara: Yeah.

Isabel: I guess that’s it., we have for Little Ashes news this week. How to Be, we didn’t have much How to Be News this week, either. We just had another slew of behind-the-scenes photos which were pretty fantastic. What do you guys think? Tara: Oh, well I’m really excited about How to Be so---

Isabel: Me, too, I’m so excited, too! Tara: Any new news or pictures that come out I’m really stoked for, so I thought the pictures were great, and I’m just really excited about the movie in general.

Joy: How to Be has been picked up at a few more film festivals, one in Anchorage, Alaska, and another in Texas, so it’s getting more exposure, it’s getting more press, and more people will be able to see it. And they are planning on going ahead with the DVD, hopefully for release in 2009, which is really just around the corner. So hopefully that will be a way for more fans to see it, those of us who don’t get film festivals in our area, who aren’t gonna get to see the film firsthand because it’s probably not gonna be released to theaters, it’ll probably just go straight to DVD after it’s done making the rounds at the film festivals. So I think especially with the internet, I think a lot of people are gonna be able to see it, eventually. It might take a while, just kind of stretched out a little.

Isabel: Just a long wait, I guess, for everybody else who can’t see it.

Joy: I think it’s the same way with Little Ashes, I mean, are they planning to release that to theaters?

Isabel: No, it’s limited release, as well, I think. Tara: Yeah.

Isabel: Well, it depends how well Twilight goes. Maybe they might actually release it to theaters.

Joy: But I mean, to tell you the truth, not a lot of independent films go to theaters; most of them stick with--

Isabel: Film festivals and then to DVD.

Joy: Yeah, film festivals and then to DVD. Which I guess is not out of the ordinary, we’re just gonna have to wait.

Isabel: All right, now for my favorite subject, we’re talking about Twilight.

Joy: Woohoo!

[Laughter]

Isabel: Ok, first thing we’re gonna talk about, new scenes. Joy, I think maybe you should start talking about this.

Joy: Oh, I have watched all of them. Let me just tell you. I’ve been watching them on a loop, that’s pretty much all I’ve done this week.

Isabel: Can we talk about how racy it is? Just kidding. Tara: Oh my gosh, it is kinda spicy.

Joy: I was so surprised when we saw that scene of them kissing, and Kristen is in her underwear. I was like, “Oh my goodness, I can’t believe they’re getting away with this.” I bet that’s the scene that got the PG 13 rating. I was really surprised.

Isabel: Well, it might be.

Joy: I was really surprised.

Isabel: Well it wasn’t like that in the book, as far as I could remember. Tara: No.

Isabel: I don’t remember them really being ever close to…naked.

Joy: But you know, I was thinking about it and I bet that’s the sc--well, we know that’s the scene that they re-recorded, cuz you know, when they first filmed it Kristen was still 17.

Isabel: Yeah, so they probably had to--

Joy: And they were like, “Oh, she’s still in school,” And all of these things, but I bet it was that she couldn’t be shown in her panties when she was seventeen. But now she can.

[Laughter]

Isabel: That’s probably why they had to wait.

Joy: Exactly, they re-filmed it--

Isabel: Because she’s in panties.

Joy: Half-naked in this. That’s no problem. But I was kinda taken aback by that. You know? I didn’t expect it, one, because it’s not in the book, and two, because--

Isabel: Cuz it’s really blatant? She’s like--her bum is taking up most of the scene, I think. Tara: Yeah, I know, I saw it and I was like, “Whoa.” And it’s so funny cuz like, in the book Edward can’t even be like near her, he can’t even have her scent around him, and here she is, “La la la,” in her underwear. And he’s like happy, like--

Isabel: He seems to be enjoying himself, at any rate.

[Laughter]

Joy: It’ll probably be an interesting thing to see that whole scene because from what I’ve read--well from the clip it looks like--they’re just going at it, but from what I’ve read and heard about it, it does show Edward pulling back and saying, “No, we need to stop,” kinda thing, like he does in the book cuz you know, just like you said, he can’t be around her that way or else he could kill her. So anyway, I think it’s just they’re kind of upping it because in the book there’s so much of Bella’s thoughts of what’s going through her head during this scene that you can’t necessarily show on screen, you know? We can’t see her inner thoughts, so I think they’re trying to up it and kind of make it more blatant.

Isabel: Well, I think sex sells, right? So why not show her in her panties?

Joy: Exactly. And she’s eighteen, so we can get away with it!

Isabel: Woohooo!

[Laughter]

Isabel: I love how we’ve spent more time talking about Kristen Stewart’s underwear than Rob in these new Twilight clips. Can we fix that, please?

Joy: No, that’s like the best part of this thing.

Isabel: Oh, keep it to yourself.

[Laughter].

Joy: Well, there were more clips, we got a lot of televisions spots--not a whole lot of material, just kind of rearranging, you know?

Isabel: Well, we got whole new scenes, right that cafeteria scene? That was pretty new.

Joy: I like that.

Isabel: I like that, too.

Joy: The cafeteria scene was really good, I like that.

Isabel: I like that too, and I like the--

[Laughter] Tara: When he brought Bella into the house and Rosalie like, crushed that glass.

Isabel: Yeah, I really like that.

Joy: That whole scene, it’s about a ten minute clip--it said it was a fifteen minute clip, but it only lasted for ten minutes, so I dunno--but I mean, I don’t wanna spoil it for anyone cuz I know some people are not wanting to watch it because it is a long chunk of the movie, but I was just really impressed on the whole by the performances cuz I did watch the whole thing cuz I couldn’t just--

Isabel: It was actually funny.

Joy: It was hilarious! I laughed through the whole thing.

Isabel: I was laughing, too. I didn’t think it would be funny.

Joy: They just have such good chemistry, the whole cast, and they seem like they’re really in character. I was watching them and I was like, “These are the Cullens. This is exactly what I imagined in my head.” And Rob delivers some hilarious lines, but totally deadpan, like he doesn’t even crack a smile for most of it.

Isabel: No, he doesn’t.

Joy: And you could hear people in the audience just cracking up at the way he says stuff. He totally pulls it off, and I think it’s gonna be amazing. I think we’re all gonna be really surprised. I guess, I don’t know, even though the book is funny--the book makes me laugh a lot--I don’t think I expected the movie to be funny, and I don’t know why.

Isabel: No I didn’t expect it either.

Joy: It’s been so dark so far.

Isabel: No, I didn’t expect it to be funny at all.

Joy: I think it’s gonna be hilarious, I’m really excited.

Isabel: Well, I thought it was gonna be always drama because Edward is always so serious-business in the book, he’s always like the party-pooper, and it’s fun to see like, how in the movie he’s kind of a smartass. It’s kind of funny.

Joy: Yeah, he is.

Isabel: It’s a little bit of Rob in Edward, I think.

Joy: Oh, totally. Tara: Yeah, it was nice to see because I was afraid that the whole move was gonna be doom and glom and that whole Romeo and Juliet type of tragedy theme going on, so to see that comical side of it was great, and you know, that’s something that made me look more forward to the movie.

Isabel: Exactly. It made me want to see it more than I did before, which, you know, whatever. Twilight.

[Laughter]

Isabel: Okay, guys. Anything else you wanna talk about?

Joy: Yeah, I kind of like this quote where Rob was talking about Twilight and he’s saying, “I hope everyone likes it, or I’m gonna get killed.” Like, I think he’s expecting the fandom to just turn on him as soon as the move’s released.

Isabel: Yeah, well he’s funny like that.

Joy: I think he’s worried about it.

Isabel: He is really worried about it. He’s been saying that. He’s been saying it since Comic-Con. Tara: Oh yeah, you can understand that because when he was first cast as Edward it was all, “He’s gonna ruin the movie, blah blah blah blah!” All these haters, and I guess that’s still in the back of his mind, so I’m sure he’s gonna be freaking out ‘til the aftermath.

Joy: he’s gonna lock himself in his house

[Laughter]

Isabel: It’s going to be so sad! We’re never gonna see him for like five years! So fans, calm down or else he’ll hide.

Joy: Yeah, please don’t kill him. We wanna keep him around.

Isabel: No, please leave him alone. I think that’s it for twilight news, we don’t really have that much new movie news, but there’s a lot of news this week, though. Let’s talk about Rob in general, how about the New Hollywood award? I think he carried it off really well that night. He was--from the articles that I’ve read and the pictures that I’ve seen and little clips of interviews, he was received really well, and he was his usual self, and he was really humble, and I dunno. I think it was a success. Tara: Oh yeah, and he was totally deserving of it, too.

Isabel: Totally. Tara: He’s obviously very gob-smacked over it, you know? You could tell in the interviews that he was incredibly humbled even more by that, and he just can’t understand why.

Isabel: Well, my favorite part of one of the interviews is when he proceeds to tell everyone that he’s completely homeless. Like, he’s got nowhere to live, and so he’s got nowhere to put his trophy.

Joy: I knew it! I always knew he was homeless.

[Laughter]

Isabel: Well, it kinda tipped us off by the way he dresses, but I dunno, now we officially know that he’s homeless. He also took a recent trip to Mexico. I can’t believe he got mobbed at the airport, what do you guys think? Tara: Oh yeah, that was, I think that is--

Joy: Well, cuz they knew. They knew about it ahead of time. It wasn’t like he just snuck up on them, and so of course, you know, they’re all like, hanging out there waiting to ambush him. Oh my gosh, it was insane.

Isabel: But don’t you think that people would have more common sense? It surprises me, but it doesn’t.

Joy: Yeah, it doesn’t really surprise me.

[Laughter]

Isabel: Yeah, it doesn’t really surprise me--well, I guess it surprises me because I thought people would be less in his face--more respectful, exactly, but I guess not.

Joy: Not so much. Can I just say that I am very disappointed that Rob went to Mexico after I left?

[Laughter]

Joy: Had I still been there, I would’ve been on the next train to Mexico City. I would’ve been one of those crazy girls at the airport.

Isabel: Don’t think about it! At least it’s not the first year that you left Mexico, cuz that’d be really funny.

Joy: But you know what? As soon as I leave Thailand, he’s gonna come here.

[Laughter]

Joy: I promise you. And I’m gonna be mad, I will write him a letter.

Isabel: Stay still!

[Laughter]

Joy: Stay still! Let me follow you!

[Laughter]

Isabel: Well what about that article, guys, that Yvette translated from an interview he had in Mexico? He--I thought that was a really good article. It said a lot about not just the movie, but about himself. What do you guys think? Do you know which article that I’m talking about?

Joy: Yeah, I like that he’s still talking about Comic-Con and he’s like, “They kept screaming for forty five minutes, it was the strangest thing that’s ever happened to me.”

Isabel: Well, I’d like to tell him it’s the strangest thing that’s ever happened to me, too. I think Tara could attest to that. I think that those two days were the strangest days that I’ve ever had.. I think both Tara and I got sick after Comic-Con. Tara: We did. I was completely delirious. I think I went slightly mad after that--

[Laughter]

Isabel: I got strep throat! Do you remember? I lost my voice when we were at Comic-Con. Tara: Yeah, I know. I had two girls sitting next to me, and the cast of Twilight was being announced, and I was being smacked in the arm!

Isabel: Yeah she was trying to sit on me! She was trying to sit on my seat, she was trying to squish me over so she could get away from this girl who was physically abusing her cuz she was so excited that Rob was on stage.

[Laughter]

Joy: Tara! Tara: And here I am, I’m trying to be all excited, and I’m like, “Ow!”

[Laughter]

Joy: Oh no. Tara: Somebody bit me!

Isabel: And we almost got--cuz we were supposed to go right away to the room that they were having autographs in--to go through, and we almost got ran over by a stampede of people trying to get out because they wanted to see if they could catch the cast somewhere or some place. It was the craziest, most surreal two days of my life. I think I spent a total of one whole day just standing in line in various places. That was fun.

Joy: Going back to that article, I like the part the question was, “What part of you relates to Edward Cullen?” And he kind of gives a little insight into himself--

Isabel: Yeah, I really liked that, too.

Joy: He says: I suppose that the fact of having a lot of doubts about yourself and not being good enough for the people you have relationships with--things like that, I feel I identify with that.” I think that was just really honest, and kind of looking into his own soul, you know? But I think we’ve seen that, we’ve seen that about him you know, that he’s not like, an over-confident kind of person, you know? I think he knows that he’s good at what he does, but he’s never like, “Oh yeah, I’m so awesome.”

Isabel: No, no not at all.

Joy: He’s concerned, he really puts a lotta effort in, and I think he--just like everyone--I think he wants that approval from the people who see what he does. He wants the fans to approve of him as Edward cullen, because he’s put so much work into it. And I think that’s just like anybody, something that you work really hard at, you want people to appreciate it, and of course you’re gonna doubt yourself, think, “Well maybe they won’t like, it,” you know, “Maybe they’ll come and kill me if they don’t like it.”

[Laughter]

Joy: But I think that was just a really honest answer and I liked that.

Isabel: I like the fact that he’s super honest about that sort of stuff. He doesn’t hide that he’s nervous about fan reaction, or he was completely flabbergasted by something that’s happened to him or things like that, he’s pretty authentic with his reaction to about anything that’s happened so far. But I could tell that’s one really nice thing about him is that he seems just really forthcoming with his reactions, or whatever. Tara: Yeah, something that--kind of like what you were saying, Isabel--his straightforward answers, and there was a--I believe it was First Magazine--

Isabel: That was a good interview, as well. Tara: That was amazing. I loved that. One of the things I liked is that he’s not gonna change himself for fame.

Isabel: Oh I love that, yeah. Tara: He said, “I’m gonna do what I wanna do, when I wanna do it, and I don’t care what anyone says.”

Isabel: Well that’s fantastic. He said that if he’s presented with something that’s incongruent with who he is as a person, he’s not going to do it. How many people can say that and actually mean it? That’s pretty great. Tara: Right, and that’s something that like--one of the many things--that I like about him and admire him for, is that, that he’s gonna stay true to himself no matter what, you know? Even if he is in tinsel town, and people are forgetting, he’s not gonna go off and follow the trend.

Isabel: No, he’s not. Which is I guess good news, well not good news, what am I trying to say? I’m trying to say that it’s probably a relief for everybody who’s a fan of his to know that he’s not gonna get a big head just because he got a New Hollywood Award, or because he’s getting all of this recognition for his new movie, or because of anything like that. Moving on to more Rob stuff, there’s been a couple e-mails, actually, about a petition for supporting Rob to host Saturday Night Live. I think it’s a good idea. I think he’d be pretty quirky as a guest, and he could also do the musical bit, what do you guys think? Tara: I think it would be definitely fun, something a little bit different for him because it would be live--in front of a live audience--Oh! Well, no, not really, because he’s been in theater, so I dunno. I think he’d be really entertaining. He’s got that British humor going on, and I think he’s a really funny guy, and it’d be interesting to see him on there.

Isabel: Well, he’s funny without even trying, like in a lot of video interviews we’ve seen, he cracks a lot of jokes. He seems like someone who’s just naturally humorous and goofy to begin with, so I think he’d be perfect. Tara: Yeah. I would love it, cuz he’d be in New York, and I’m in New Jersey.

Isabel: Alright guys, music. I’ve been listening to his stuff completely nonstop almost all week. “Never Think,” what--I thought it was fantastic to hear him sing--or to hear a track of his that’s gone through the studio and been edited and things like that, it sounded so fantastic! Tara: Yeah, I love it, and I--you know, not only do I love his singing voice, but I love, you know, the guitar.

Isabel: Alright, well before we actually get into talking about “Never Think,” we’re gonna play a little snippet of it for you so you guys get an idea what we’re talking about if you haven’t heard it already.

[“Never Think” plays]

Isabel: After we play that, why don’t we talk about first impressions of when you listened to it. Tara you were saying something about how you enjoy how he plays the guitar. I think it’s pretty awesome, too. There’s a lot of--he does a lot of guitar riffs through his songs, and I really enjoy that. Tara: Yeah, that’s something that--that was my point I was trying to get through, is that I absolutely love that, and I think his voice is just so different. He has such a soulful, passionate voice, you know? You can totally tell he gets into what he’s singing and he means it, and I like that about him.

Isabel: Yeah, me too. I find that his voice is very passionate and meaningful. We found out this week that iTunes is adding a bonus track, so if you pre-order the soundtrack with iTunes, you get a bonus track of Rob singing. There are two bonus tracks, right? So one of them’s gonna be Rob, and one of them’s gonna be--what’s the other one gonna be?

Joy: It’s called “Let Me Sign,” which the only thing I can think of is like, sign language. I don’t know why, but I can’t even begin to think what this song could be about. Let me sign what? Sign my name? Sign--

[Laughter]

Joy: I mean, I can’t even think. I don’t even know. Do you guys have an answer?

Isabel: I have no idea. I’m trying to think as well, I was trying to think about that and then I was like, “Twilight,” and I didn’t think about it too hard. Tara: See, that’s the thing, Rob is an enigma. So I mean--

[Laughter]

Joy: Well he has a song named “Stray Dog,” so I mean, this could be about anything at all.

[Laughter]

Isabel: Nobody knows.

[Laughter]

Isabel: I think he does it on purpose, too. He’s like, “I’m gonna be really goofy, and I’m gonna name it something like: “Pancake Batter””

[Laughter]

Isabel: Alright, talking about music stuff, our next thing that we have, is that we have a brand new section for our site called our brand new Music Archive. Check it out, it’s up now. We have a player that plays all of his tracks that we have available to us. It’s got things about him and his music career, and hopefully we want to eventually have a section that talks about his future performances if he has any, or his performances that have been. We also have videos of him performing. We have two, I believe, in the Media Archive right now that are also from the Music Archive. So, check it out, you can listen to his music streaming on our website, that’s pretty fantastic.

Joy: I think we should talk about how Rob wants to be a hip-hop star.

Isabel: Oh my goodness. Can we please talk about how Rob wants to be a hip-hop star? I’d really like to talk about this.

[Laughter]

Joy: Okay, this is the quote, “At the moment I’ve recently gotten into hip-hop again. I’m reliving my childhood. I’ve been listening to a lot of Wu Tang Klan. I always wanted to be a rapper when I was younger, that’s always what I wanted to be before I started acting. That’s what I wanted to do, was be a rapper. I didn’t have the right physicality about it. I’m not very threatening.”

[Laughter]

Joy: I love that quote.

Isabel: He can say that again.

[Laughter]

Isabel: he’s not very threatening, no.

Joy: I can’t even imagine him being a rapper. That would just be so weird.

Isabel: I think he should do it for fun, but I think that it shouldn’t ever be--

Joy: He could do it on Saturday Night Live when he hosts!

Isabel: Oh my goodness, that’d be amazing.

[Laughter]

Isabel: That’d be so fun. Tara weren’t you telling me something--I remember vaguely--about the past and him wanting to be Eminem when he was younger? Tara: Yeah, when he was twelve years old they had a--there was an article like back in 2006 and he mentioned how much of a fan of Eminem he was when he was like 12, that’s all he would listen to.

Isabel: Rob needs to update things that he’s listening to. He needs to listen to some Kanye, I think.

Joy: I’ve been hearing some buzz about fans petitioning iTunes to get Rob to make a celebrity play list, you know how some celebrities--

Isabel: Yeah, yeah, that would be cool.

Joy: Do what where it’s like, “These are songs that I like,”

Isabel: Oh, I think that’d be really cool for him to make up his own play list. I mean, we only know one or two things that he likes listening to. Like he mentioned before he liked The Delays? Or how do you say it? The Delays? Tara: Yeah, The Delays. It doesn’t matter.

Isabel: But other than that, and the Wu Tang Klan, and apparently he liked Eminem when he was twelve-- that doesn’t say much about what he actually likes to listen to. I think it’d be interesting for him to update his list.

Joy: I bet he’s got an eclectic taste. Tara: Oh yeah.

Isabel: Seems like he does.

Joy: I think he’d like a lot of really different stuff. So that’d be neat to see a play list from him. I don’t know how they go about doing that. I don’t know if iTunes asks him, or--

Isabel: Or he just goes on to do it, I dunno, that’d be pretty cool. Okay, this week’s favorite articles. I really, really enjoyed First Magazine Singapore. And I really liked this quote that they had: “I met Zac Efron the other day, and he was getting mobbed by so many girls; that’s a full-time job, and I can’t do that. I’m not really prepared to hide anything about myself. I behave however I want, I don’t care if people don’t like it. I don’t want to sacrifice my lifestyle for jobs.” That’s the quote you were talking about Tara-- Tara: Yeah, I love that one.

Isabel: And I love it. It just seems to epitomize everything we know about him, as a person, not just as an actor.

Joy: You know, I’m really glad, I don’t wanna see him become another you know, celebrity--

Isabel: Zac Efron? Yeah, no thanks.

Joy: I mean, cuz there’s so many of them, and it’s hard. I can’t pretend that I even know what it’s like to deal with all that celebrity, to deal with people screaming your name and things like that, I mean, you know--

Isabel: You mean, running a website you don’t get any screaming fans? Damn! I signed on for the wrong job.

[Laughter]

Joy: Actually, no. Maybe I should give out my address and people can come scream at my door.

Isabel: You know what, I think I would keep that to myself. We have enough problems just answering e-mails from the website.

Joy: Yeah, true story. I just think that, you know, Rob’s not really the kind of little teeny-bopper celebrity, you know what I mean?

Isabel: Well, actually, he’s turning into one of those! Like, not him himself, but like he’s becoming really famous with younger girls.

Joy: Oh, right, and I think he could have that potential, but I think personality-wise, I can’t imagine him ever turning into another teen heartthrob.

Isabel: See, no, I don’t think someone who plays Salvador Dali is going to be ever a teen heartthrob, if you think about it in that sort of way. He just--yeah, he chooses roles like Cedric and Edward, but with the variety of roles that he’s done, it’s hard to say that he’s a teen heartthrob or will be, or I dunno.

Joy: Right, right, I mean, definitely he has a lot of fans, but I think he’s not gonna turn into another Lindsay Lohan Paris Hilton kind of celebrity, you know what I mean? Like, he’s a celebrity but not that kind, there’s definitely different kinds of celebrities, and I know that he’s not gonna do that. And if he did I would be really disappointed, but I can’t imagine that he ever will.

Isabel: No, I can’t imagine, either, and I agree with you. I agree with everything that you just said that I think I would be disappointed as well. Like, I don’t think that that’s the direction he’s headed though, or wants to head in. Alright, the next article that we should talk about is the Variety article. Do you guys have anything to say about that?

Joy: They talk a lot about filming the sequels, and he says, you know, that Edward doesn’t age, and obviously, Rob does. I mean, he’s already you know, five years older than Edward Cullen, so they can’t take forever to film the sequels, if you know--they might just do one. They might do the next three, but if they do, they’re gonna have to do them quickly, but you know, I think they filmed Twilight rather quickly, I mean, they didn’t stretch Twilight’s filming out for a really, really long time.

Isabel: No! They filmed Twilight within like three months, and then they had the re-shoots. I think it was three months, cuz they weren’t in Oregon or Washington state for very long, at all. Yeah, no I don’t think it’s--I think they might end up probably doing another, maybe they’ll squeeze the next two into one movie itself, I dunno, but yeah, they can’t do it like one every year for the next four years. Tara: No, there’s no way.

Isabel: It’s just not feasible to do. Tara: Yeah, I mean, like Joy said, Edward doesn’t age but Rob does, and two yeas from now he’s gonna be 25 playing a 17 year old and that’s just not gonna work.

Isabel: yeah, that’s a bad idea.

Joy: There’s only so much that makeup can do.

Isabel: Yeah, exactly.

[Laughter]

Isabel: Okay, what about this Celebuzz article where it talks about how Rob’s such a snob--

[Joy laughs in background] which is the funniest thing I’ve ever read because he’s the least snobby person, I think. Tara: Yeah, I mean, if he’s gonna be out with friends, the last thing he’s gonna wanna do is take pictures with like, fifty fans waiting outside for him or strike up conversations with everybody, I mean, if he can he will and if he can’t he can’t, you know? I mean, that’s the bottom line, I mean, I don’t mean to sound harsh or anything, but it’s just like, he’s like any normal person. If you have somewhere to be, you can’t sit there and talk to some random person because their feelings are hurt.

Isabel: Even if you want to. You can’t do it, because it’s just not feasible to do. Tara: Exactly.

Joy: There’s a poll on this article over at Celebuzz, and it’s just asking you know, do you think that Rob has let all the attention go to his head? And so far, 86% of those responding are saying, “no, he’s just shy, he didn’t feel like questions,” And you know, it could just be that maybe that day he was not in the mood, you know? To tell you the truth there are times when I don’t even let my friends take pictures of me, I’m like, I don’t wanna be in a picture right now. You know? And are we saying that celebrities are not allowed to have days like that? That they always have to be like, “Take my picture now!” I don’t think so, I think he is shy and he should be able to refuse a stranger taking his picture whenever he wants, you know?

Isabel: Well that’s his prerogative, exactly, I agree with you, too. I don’t think that they should have made it into as big of a deal that they made it into.

Joy: yeah, and it’s not like he was rude, I mean, if he was like, you know, swearing at them and whatever and like, “Get away from me!” You know, but it wasn’t. It just says he turned away, you know, and he said that he explained that pictures weren’t really his thing. You know? And we’ve seen that he’s not a camera whore, you know? He just kinda stands there and smiles and you know, he doesn’t like pose and do things like that, you know?

Isabel: No, he doesn’t do anything crazy, he just stands there, exactly. Or he talks to people.

Joy: Sometimes I kinda get the feeling when I look at these pictures that he’s just kind of like, “Alright, let’s get it done,” you know? Like, cuz he is more internal. He doesn’t want the entire world snapping pictures in his face, I think he knows that that’s a part of his job. And I think that he--I mean, he does it. :

Isabel: He’s pretty gracious about it, most of the time. Tara: I actually--

Joy: There’s parts of my job that I don’t like to do, but I do it anyway, you know? And I think it’s the same way for a celebrity, you know? And he can choose to refuse that if he wants.

Isabel: Well, I remember reading an article way back when Goblet of Fire first came out, they were asking him how I guess, something along the lines of, “How do you react to the Potter Mania? Or how do you think you’re gonna handle the Potter Mania?” And he said, “I don’t think--I hope it won’t get too bad because I won’t want to leave my house.” And he’s like, “I don’t like to leave my house anyway, as it is.” If he thought that was bad, I think this is completely different. Tara: And it’s--speaking about all this--there’s a new interview or article from the LA Times cuz they’re doing that Twilight countdown thing, and it’s about photographs, and he says, “The only kind of strange thing is is when you get photographed, when people come up to you, it’s completely understandable, but if someone secretly photographing you, that’s kind of weird, I don’t think you’d ever get used to that. You can’t really live normally when that’s happening. People coming up to you is always kinda nice, I don’t do anything during my days, so it’s someone to talk to.” So there you go right there.

Isabel: Yeah, I think that he’s completely fine, but if he can’t, he’ll tell you he can’t. We have to take most of these articles with a grain of salt, as well. Like, it could just be like all those other articles--I wasn’t going to bring it up, saying that he’s dating this supermodel, or whatever. It’s hype and publicity and not necessarily true. Who knows. Tara: Oh yeah, kinda like now that he’s in the limelight more than he ever was, they’re just kind of trying to make drama and get different reactions from fans. I mean, the more buzz for these magazines and internet magazines, the better for them, you know? They don’t care if they’re gonna ruin his image, because it’s better for them.

Joy: Twilight Tuesday has a new article where all the stars answer questions, and they have some video, but there’s some really cute lines from this--not just from Rob, but from Kellan and Nikki. They talk about Rob and just how bad he is at stunts, and I thought that was so funny because the question was, “There’s a lot of stunt work, who’s the worst at it?” And they were both like, “Rob.”

[Laughter]

Joy: He said, “He’s really not athletic.” They actually say: “He runs like a mountain goat.” Which is hilarious to me, absolutely hilarious.

[Laughter]

Isabel: How could you even describe anything like that? How could you even like, envision that? He runs like a mountain goat.

[Laughter] Tara: So funny. Nikki Reed, she comes out with like, the funniest things. I remember reading one set article from a fan, and she called him, she was like, “You know what Rob looks like right now?” I guess it was to Kellan, he was like, “What?” She was like, “You know on the Little Mermaid? Those little guppies? That’s what he looks like.”

[Laughter]

Joy: That’s so cute.

Isabel: Well, it’s probably why they hang out so much, probably because she’s as random as he is. Why they get along really well. That’s really funny, that was a good twilight Tuesday. Alright, that’s it for the news right now, Joy why don’t you update us on the updates for the Twilight Tour? Do you have those dates with you?

Joy: I do. Yeah, we finally got confirmation for the dates where Rob will be promoting Twilight, November 10th he’ll be in San Francisco, he’ll be in Dallas on the 11th, Chicago on the 12th, Philadelphia on the 13th, and Boston on the 14th. And all of those dates are posted on our site, if you didn’t catch those.

Isabel: Well, before we recorded this week’s podcast, we put a news post on the site asking if anybody had any questions for us, and we got a couple of e-mails in; Joy’s gonna read them out to us, and we’re gonna attempt to answer them coherently.

[Laughter]

Joy: Yeah, exactly. Okay, Rebecca e-mailed us and said, “I think it was the interview with

[not even gonna try to transcribe this one]--the one in Mexico--the one where he talked about a couple of projects that he was doing but he couldn’t really talk about them just yet. I was curious if we have any new information regarding that. Could it be possible that he was referring to Parts per Billion?” What do you guys think?

Isabel: I think that he probably was referring to Parts per Billion, but we have no new news of anything that’s new right now, other than what we’ve said. But it sounds like it could be Parts per Billion, what do you guys think? Tara: I definitely agree that that’s probably the project he was speaking about cuz as far as we know there’s no other, you know, projects that he’s working on. Unless he’s doing something musically that we don’t know about and he’s keeping mum.

Isabel: True.

Joy: Lydia e-mailed and asked: “I was wondering about your reaction to MTV’s budding coverage on Little Ashes. I personally think that they are going to make it bigger than what it is--I mean, I think they did that with Twilight, a little; even though I think we knew that one was going to go the way it was gonna go from the beginning.” Basically she’s just asking, MTV has picked up Little Ashes and is like, really pushing it. Do you guys think that it’s gonna become this huge thing kind of like Twilight has? I mean, are they gonna do Little Ashes Wednesday or something? I mean--

[Laughter]

Isabel: No! I don’t think so at all. I think they’re probably gonna cover it for like, news and stuff, and I think once the Twilight hype dies down, I think that they’re probably gonna end up dropping Little Ashes, as well. It’s of no use to them to promote a movie like that, really.

Joy: Yeah, well that’s the thing. I think a lot of websites are jumping on the bandwagon here because Twilight is huge. There’s no denying it. It started off as this little low-budget thing, but it’s just become this force to reckon with, and I think a lot of sites like MTV are jumping on and saying, “Hey, let’s push this as far as we can.” Because it’s all about the fans, we wanna promote it to the fans, but we also wanna bring in more for ourselves, you know? And a site like MTV, you know, it’s a business.

Isabel: Well, it doesn’t serve them to promote the movie, is what I think you’re trying to say. So they probably won’t.

Joy: Right, exactly. It doesn’t serve them. So I think that they’re gonna push it while they can, you know? And it is a different--

Isabel: The thing is, their target audience is the exact audience that’s going to see Twilight. It’s not the same kind of audience that’s going to see Little Ashes.

Joy: Exactly. Definitely. So I think they’re gonna push it, and they might try to make it bigger than it is, but I think that it’s probably gonna die down--like you said--after the twilight hype has kind of fizzled a little. bit, I think they’re gonna drop Little Ashes, maybe just mention it here and there, cuz it’s not in theaters, you know? So it’s not like they’re gonna be able to sell movie tickets to it, you know what I mean?

Isabel: No. I think that they’re probably just going to--it’s just another little, added something on the coattails of twilight publicity that they could use, I suppose.

Joy: And you know, I think if Kristen was doing another movie--

Isabel: She’d do the same thing.

Joy: I think they’d push that, too. And maybe she is, I don’t know. I’m not up on my Kristen Stewart news, sorry! They’re gonna capitalize on it because they’re big stars right now, they’re the ones that people are talking about, so they’re gonna try to capitalize on that as much as they can. I think that’s what we’re seeing. We’re seeing the backlash, I guess, which might not be the right word. Just everything riding on the coattails of twilight.

Isabel: No, it’s just extra publicity for other projects that the leading man is doing, and I don’t think that it’s going to affect the movie itself either way--how it’s received or anything like that.

Joy: Okay, well the next e-mail came from Alyssa and she says, “I think you guys should discuss how the paparazzi are being with Rob. They’re being really rude, so I think it’d be a get a topic to see what other people think about it, as well.” Um, we’ve talked about this several times. We’ve talked about it here on PattyCast, but also just with each other. The paparazzi are insane. You know? And I think the general fan consensus is just that the paparazzi need to leave celebrities alone--not just Rob, but other celebrities as well. They would pretty much do anything for a picture, for an exclusive, whether that means getting right in someone’s face, invading their privacy, and I think that’s the main reason why we decided to go paparazzi free on the site.

Isabel: Well that’s also, we also wanna respect his privacy, but I think the reason why we want to make Pattinson Online paparazzi free is because we can’t blame it entirely on the paparazzi because there is demand for the pictures that they’re taking. So, if people don’t look at them, there won’t be any demand for them. Not that we’re saying don’t look at paparazzi photos, we’re just choosing not to post them on our website because we don’t agree with the means or the methods of how they’re getting their photos, and I remember seeing a set of photographs that the paparazzi took of one of Rob’s friends following him outside of a club, and I just find that completely distasteful, and I don’t want to be associated with anything like that, and we all agreed on that. Tara: Oh, definitely.

Isabel: That’s where we’re coming from.

Joy: Yeah, I mean, I don’t even let my friends put embarrassing pictures of me up on Facebook, so I can’t imagine--and like, the only people who look at those are like, my parents.

[Laughter]

Joy: And so if somebody took an embarrassing picture of me and plastered it all over the internet for everybody to see, I’d be so mortified, you know? And I just don’t think that’s okay. Yes, these people are in the public eye, but that doesn’t mean that we can do whatever we want with them, and we’ve talked about this before, we could go on and on.

Isabel: We could--this is a topic of conversation that comes up over and over again between us because we see a lot of behind-the-scenes things that go on--not with just the fans, but also with photographers and everything like that, and it’s--our official stance is obviously we don’t agree with that sort of thing, and we could go on about it more, but I think we’ve said what we wanted to say.

Joy: We also got an e-mail from Crazy Fairy, and she asked, “Is Rob really dating that Annalise model?” I don’t’ know if I’m saying the name right.

Isabel: Yeah.

Joy: And her other question was: “Any news on when How to Be will be released on DVD?” No official date for How to Be, their website says probably 2009, but you know, that’s an entire year, so it could be any time during that. But as soon as we find out, we’ll post it.

Isabel: As for--

Joy: --what do you guys think?

Isabel: I have no idea. I don’t think that he’s dating her, but I don’t know. And you know what? I don’t care. It’s really none of my business. Tara: Yeah, same here, I was gonna say that. Whether he is or he isn’t, the reason why we’re fans is because we like him and his acting and who he’s dating--

Isabel: Doesn’t have anything to do with why we enjoy him as a person. Tara: Why we like him.

Isabel: Yeah, it has no bearing on anything. Like, I’ve heard it--I’ve been hearing it since photos of them together in that one concert--Kings of Leon--were shown, or whatever, and I just--I think that it shouldn’t matter. I don’t think people should talk about it, and I’m actually uncomfortable speaking about it right now, cuz I just don’t care. Tara: Yeah.

[Laughter]

Joy: Yeah, so I mean, we can’t say officially. I mean, you know, unless he came out with an actual statement, like, “Yes, I am dating so-and-so.” Everything we say is just speculation anyway.

Isabel: And what does it matter? Who cares?

Joy: It doesn’t matter, you know? It’s not like me being unhappy about it is gonna mean that he’s gonna dump her and you start dating me, you know?

[Laughter]

Joy: That’s like, not even within the realm of possibility, at all.

Isabel: No.

Joy: And to tell you the truth, when I was looking through some of our old e-mails and old posts, we used to get a lot of e-mails about--any time that Rob appeared somewhere with a girl, we’d get a lot of e-mails like, “Oh my gosh! I can’t believe it! I’m so upset that he’s dating her!” And I’m thinking, “Did you really think that Rob was gonna date you?” I mean, like, not to say that like--

Isabel: In a bad way, you know?

Joy: I’m not saying that in a bad way, but I think that there are honestly people who are out there who think that they have a chance to date Robert Pattinson, or any other celebrity. It’s mind-blowing. I can’t even fathom what goes through peoples’ minds.

[Laughter]

Joy: And it’s sad. Not to make fun of these people, but honestly, whether he’s dating someone or not does not have any impact on your life, I’m sorry.

[Laughter]

Joy: It just doesn’t. Tara: That’s the thing--

Isabel: Well, to be quite honest, anything that he does: having a new movie coming out with Tom Sturridge, or--did you hear my Tom Sturridge reference?

[Laughter]

Joy: Nice. Tom Sturridge Reference of the Day.

Isabel: Okay, whatever he’s doing, like, that’s nothing to do--like, it has no impact on our lives whatsoever. It’s purely just being a fan and getting some sort of pleasure out of being a fan, that’s basically it. We--I don’t know what else to say about it other than that people shouldn’t make such a big deal out of something that shouldn’t be important to them. Tara: Right, and like, being a fan of Rob means that you’re supporting Rob. So if you’re upset about him dating someone and are getting--you’re not supporting him, exactly.

Isabel: If he wants to date Brazilian models-- Tara: So be it.

Isabel: Give the guy a break. Brazilian models--wouldn’t you date a Brazilian model? Whatever. Go date models, Rob. Have fun.

[Laughter]

Joy: Wow. Yeah, and you know, it’s not to say that we can’t be curious about it, you know, like--

Isabel: Well ask, talk about it, that’s fine.

Joy: Well it’s fine to say, “Is he dating someone?” Yes. No. Maybe so. But I think a lot of people are dwelling on it, you know, there’s been a lot of--

Isabel: There’s a lot of hate mail--

Joy: --fan girl rage. There is a lot of hate mail!

Isabel: Didn’t we receive one sort of e-mail that’s talking about how there’s gossip also of the model herself getting hate mail from people?

Joy: And that’s not okay!

Isabel: No, that’s not okay.

Joy: You know, this poor girl. To tell you the truth, it’s within the realm of possibility that this girl was just standing next to Rob at the concert, and she might not even have talked to him, but now maybe she’s--

Isabel: Weren’t there also like 50 other people standing next to Rob at this concert?

Joy: There were a lotta celebs there. So you know, it’s not okay. I’m not--I don’t think people should send hate mail anyway, but you know, especially to this poor girl who probably was just like, talking to him, maybe, and now she’s getting hate mail from these little fangirls who’re like, “I hate you for taking Rob away from me!” You know? I mean, it’s just ridiculous. It’s really ridiculous, but anyway, we could talk about this for forever, as you can see, we are very passionate about this.

[Laughter]

Joy: Poor Rob.

Isabel: Well not really protect it’s just--I think we’re here to knock some common sense into people.

Joy: That is our job.

Isabel: Stop acting like idiots! A bit of common sense, please.

Joy: Alright, well, the next e-mail came from Kerry, and she says, “Please talk about Rob winning his Hollywood Award, and how humble and friendly he is--even when he’s drunk. Haha. You should mention that his award is for everything he’s done, not just for Edward cullen. It shows that he’s getting recognized for everything that he’s done in mainstream and independent films.” I thought that was a very good point.

Isabel: It is, it is a good point, I liked that e-mail when I read it.

Joy: As far as I know--and correct me if I’m wrong--but the award is for like, upcoming talent, is that right?

Isabel: Yeah, yeah, it’s for new and upcoming talent, right.

Joy: Right, so he’s getting recognized for stuff that he’s done and stuff that he’s going to do. They’re seeing a potential in him, and I think that’s great because he really does have a lot of potential, and really before the twilight role came along, he was kind of--what’s the word I’m looking for? Like a background star. He was just there, and not a lot of people knew about him, but now he’s getting the recognition, and it’s well

[Laughter]

Joy: Deserved. It really is well-deserved. It’s not just because he’s beautiful--which he is--but it’s because he’s talented, and I think that’s great. It really is. Congratulations to Rob for getting that award cuz I think he really deserved it.

Isabel: Yeah, I know we’re a fansite, and we’re supposed to be your fans, and we’re obviously biased, but I think you--he actually did deserve that award.

Joy: Our last e-mail comes from Alicia, it’s a little bit longer, but this is what she says: “Sometimes when we see the bits and pieces of the movie

[Twilight] that have been online, I realize that I’m expecting something perfect, like the Harry Potter studio green-screen perfection. Catherine Hardwicke’s documentary style is different. There have been a couple of movies recently that sort of imitate the YouTube photography, so I guess she’s in between total-real and studio-perfection. I guess I was trying to say, what do you think will be the fan reception? Will they like this edgy approach vs. the perfection of the Harry Potter approach? I’m sure the actors and crew would’ve loved the comfort of a nice, dry, warm studio instead of the hellacious weather conditions they worked in last spring. I’m also surprised to read that Catherine says if the studio decides to make the sequels, she wouldn’t shoot them at the same time. It makes so much sense to be able to use the sets and cars and no aging actors, like they did with Lord of the Rings. I wonder why she would insist on shooting them at different times, any ideas?” A longer one, but she had some really good points. Especially--just looking at the clip, going back to talking about that longer clip that we saw--to be honest, it did kind of have a little low-budget feel. Not necessarily like, “We did this on 100 dollars,” but some of the special-effects, I was kind of like, “That’s really cheesy.”

[Laughter]

Joy: You know? And I think a lot of it--

Isabel: I think the tree one, I thought, was pretty cheesy.

Joy: The tree one--just seeing them kind of jump from tree to tree.

Isabel: Well, it just--he was like, floating up the tree. It looked pretty bad. It didn’t look like he was climbing the tree.

Joy: It was--and I don’t think--it wasn’t crappy, I’m not saying that, I’m thinking this is a low-budget film, and it kind of brought that back, and we knew that from the beginning, but I think we’ve seen a lot of really, really good stuff from the promotional clips and the trailers and everything, that I think, I don’t know, I’m kind of worried that people are gonna be like, “This is crap!” And they’re gonna be really turned off by the bad special effects, but also there were some really good ones. Like there was one where it showed Edward moving really quickly around the car to open Bella’s door, and that looked really cool; that was a good effect, so I don’t know. I think the fan reaction is gonna be mixed. I was kind of surprised by the cheesy special effects, but at the same time, I still really enjoyed it, it kind of--maybe this is just me, but it kind of made me feel like, “This is my movie,” you know what I mean? Just to be like, “Yeah, this is kinda not legit but I still love it anyway, just because of what it’s about.” I don’t’ know if that made any sense, but do you guys know what I’m talking about?

Isabel: Yeah, I know what you’re talking about. It totally makes sense.

Joy: Going back to her e-mail, she says--talking about the sequels, that Catherine doesn’t want to film them all at the same time, what do you guys think about that? Is it a good idea, bad idea?

Isabel: I don’t know. I think that’s a bad idea, but--well, just because of timing. If she doesn’t wanna film them all at the same time, then the continuity is gonna--cuz the stories happened one after the other, and we mentioned earlier, he’s--Edward’s going to stay seventeen, and Rob’s completely going to age, but --well he completely looks different from pictures that we saw just last year, itself, he’s--I don’t’ know. Tara: Yeah.

Isabel: He looks older, to me. I think it’s a bad idea, I dunno, what do you guys think? Tara: Yeah, I agree.

Joy: Well, I have a feeling that she’s not saying like, “We’re gonna wait two years between each one.” I don’t think that’s what she’s saying, you know, I think she’s just saying, “We’re gonna take a break in between,” Whether it’s just for a couple of months, because it’s hard work. Plus you’ve gotta add all the editing time--so I think it’s reasonable to say they’re not gonna film them on top of each other--because what they did with Lord of the Rings, they were filming for like, three years, nonstop. That’s a long time in the life of an actor, you know what I mean?

Isabel: Yeah, they were in New Zealand for three years; that was a long time. But I don’t think it’s gonna take three years to film--Lord of the Rings is a different caliber than Twilight, no offense, but--

Joy: I totally agree. I think what she’s saying is we need that break time in between. I don’t think she’s gonna wait two years to film the next one, it’s not gonna be like that.

Isabel: Well, yeah, understandably they do need to.

Joy: As far as the aging thing goes, but at the same time, they have to make do.

Isabel: Yeah.

Joy: I mean, Rob’s probably not gonna change that much, and they do put a lot of makeup on him. It’s amazing what they can do with--

Isabel: It’s actually really weird, the makeup. I was actually looking at some on-the-set photos that some fans took while they were in Washington state and in Oregon, and the makeup that they use is so translucent. It’s weird. It turns the skin completely different.

Joy: Well, that was all our e-mails for this week. Please keep e-mailing us because we love to hear what people think about the pod cast, and you know--

Isabel: Good or bad, we like to hear both.

Joy: And we wanna know what you guys want to know.

Isabel: Yeah, and we want to do e-mails every week, so keep e-mailing us with suggestions, or ideas, or even to tell us that we’re awful, we’re awesome, either way we wanna hear your e-mails.

Joy: We prefer the awesome ones, but--

[Laughter]

Isabel: Okay,

Joy: Alright, woohoo!

Isabel: Woohoo! Now we’ve come to the moment that we’ve waited for that we’re so excited about : Happy birthday time! We’re doing a contest for the site, we turn three--it’s a big deal for us, we keep repeating it--

[Laughter]

Isabel: But we’re doing a contest for you guys. We’re doing what’s called a scavenger hunt, where we have a list of ten clues. You can find the answers straight on the website, you don’t have to go anywhere else. Some answers you can find only on the website, and then the prizes for our contest: the first prize person gets a cardboard cut-out of Rob and a guest spot on the PattyCast, and the second and third place, they also each get guest spots on the PattyCast. All at the same time, we’re not exactly sure when we’ll fit everybody in, but it will be within the next couple of weeks, so look out for that contest. Join and participate, and have fun! If you weren’t listening to anything I just said, we’re gonna put all this information in a big birthday post, which you can see online--on Pattinson Online--and we wanna talk a little bit about the site, actually, to end. We’ll tell you a little bit about the history, and a little bit about us, and why we do it, and why we like it, cuz I think people might be wondering as to why we do what we do anyway, so Joy do you wanna start? She created everything, so.

Joy: Sure. Well I started the site obviously, three years ago, but I really started thinking about it even before that, when Rob was cast as Cedric Diggory and we saw that first picture of him, I was a goner. I was like, “This is it. He is the celebrity of my life.”

[Laughter]

Joy: So this was back in June 2004--this was over a year before the film actually came out. I was just obsessed from the beginning. You can ask anybody who knew me at that point, they were like, “Just stop talking about him! You only know one thing about him! Stop it!”

[Laughter]

Joy: Everything that I could find about him--you guys, I have a very obsessive personality, FYI--

Isabel: Really?

Joy: So I held onto this one little teeny piece of information and I was like, “I love Robert Pattinson!” I’m such a fan girl at heart. Oh, I know. But then--

Isabel: You know what though, it pays off. Doesn’t it feel good to be a fangirl from the start?

Joy: It does feel good to be a fangirl from the start. I feel like I have dibs.

[Laughter]

Joy: I can claim that I--

Isabel: There are no dibs!

[Laughter]

Joy: Dibs on Rob! I called dibs!

[Laughter]

Isabel: Oh, man. Well, I think we all--well, I know that I heard about him through the casting, as well, cuz I used to keep up back then with the Harry Potter news, and that’s when I thought it was pretty fantastic, but I wasn’t like that. I didn’t really think too much about it until the movie came out. And that was it for me. As soon as I saw him fall out of the tree, I said to myself, “And there we go.” That’s it. That’s it for me.

[Laughter]

Isabel: I went online and I searched--actually, it wasn’t me, it was my sister who did it--and we came across another Rob site before I came across Pattinson Online. Then I got to meet Joy and Joy can talk more about it, she tells stories better than I do.

Joy: Well, I had never done a celebrity fan site before. I had done web sites before, when I was in high school I taught myself how to run websites and do stuff like that, but I’d never had one for a celebrity so it didn’t even cross my mind to start one until about October of 2005. I was getting really excited for the movie, cuz it was coming, it was coming. I was watching all the trailers, all the promotional fliers, I was in total fangirl mode, and I thought to myself, “I need to do something with all this energy.” So I just started working on the site, and it was crazy. I had never really done this kind of work before, so trying to find scripts to work with and you know, the right kind of pictures, I wasn’t very good at making graphics--

[Laughter]

Joy: So I was a mess. The first site was so ugly you guys. It was hideous. I opened it, obviously, in November of 2005. It was horrific. I’m surprised that anyone came to this. I pretty much told my friends, “You need to go visit my site, or else,” Cuz it was bad, it was just so ugly, it was green, and it was like sideways--

Isabel: I remember. I remember this.

Joy: Oh, it was so ugly!

Isabel: It was a sideways layout on the side, it had a sidebar photo but like, sideways.

Joy: Yeah, I thought I was so clever with this thing.

Isabel: I thought our succeeding layouts were pretty clever, too, until I look back on them.

Joy: Oh my gosh, yes! I wish we could find screen-caps of all of our previous layouts cuz there were some ugly--

Isabel: Hilarious.

Joy: I thought I was so clever, so I was like, “These are the best layouts! This is the most beautiful one I’ve ever done!”

[Laughter]

Joy: I don’t know why it didn’t just burn the site down, it was so ugly. Yeah, and it was originally, actually hosted on Freewebs because I was poor--like I am now--but eventually, I was like, “This is horrible.” Freewebs is not the place to host a fansite. I’m sorry for anyone who has a fansite on Freewebs, but, yeah. In order to do anything with this, I had to get it off, so I got some hosting, a domain, pattinsononline.net, that was our first domain--and we still actually have it.

Isabel: It still directs to us, by the way.

Joy: For a while it got worse and worse, and uglier and uglier, and the layouts were just really bad, but thankfully, everybody really liked it. Everyone liked the site, and it started to grow, and I was really proud of it, and had some good staff, and then you guys joined. I reigned in Isabel as soon as I could, I was like, “Yeah, get on board here.”

Isabel: Well, I became first the forum moderator. Like, I wasn’t like involved in the site really yet, but there was this one time when you and I were the only ones working on the site, and we had to transfer it to a completely new domain. I think we transferred it to Surpass, and we had to backup all the files and we dealt with billing for so long--

[Laughter]

Isabel: Cuz I remember it, being on the phone with Surpass for like two hours, because they couldn’t point the main servers in the right direction, and they didn’t know how to do it!

Joy: You were like totally yelling at them--

Isabel: I totally yelled. This is why--this is why you asked me to run the site with you, because I totally scared Surpass into fixing things.

[Laughter]

Joy: That was a bad day, I remember just thinking, “Why are we doing this? I hate--”

Isabel: I remember that.

Joy: Yeah, it was bad, it was really really bad.

[sigh]

Joy: But that was in February of 2006, so we were still kind of on the Harry Potter high

Isabel: Yeah totally.

Joy: Some of our staff members got to go to Collector Mania and get an interview with Rob, and that was a big deal.

Isabel: That was a big deal.

Joy: That was a really big deal back then, I remember being so excited. I was telling everyone, “My site’s got an exclusive with Rob,” you know? And we were just really pumped about that.

Isabel: Yeah, and I remember getting the video before we even got the full thing, and I was so excited that they were able to interview them, and I remember he wasn’t even expecting anyone to go talk to him.

[Laughter]

Isabel: At Collector Mania.

Joy: Right, well it was his first kind of public appearance after being cast, and I think, you know, obviously it was not as big as it is now. That’s really why we got that interview, because they just kind of showed up with a video camera, and they were like, “Hey can we interview you?” And he was like, “Sure.” So yeah, it would not happen now, sadly enough.

Isabel: Sadly enough.

Joy: But then in March, yay, we found Tara, who we love.

Isabel: We decided to do a job search because we were getting increasingly frustrated with the fact that nobody was helping us, it was just Joy and I doing everything, and then we were finally like, “That’s it.” but Tara was actually the only one from like the 15 people we hired that month--she’s the only one who stuck around! L

Joy: That’s so true! We hired so many people, oh gosh.

Isabel: We did, we wanted to be efficient, and we ended up turning the site into the least efficient thing ever, and we still ended up doing everything ourselves.

[Laughter]

Joy: Yeah, how did that happen? We end up hiring people, and then we just end up doing everything ourselves, anyway.

Isabel: Actually, that’s been the story for the past few years except for the past like, three months. We’ve finally found a staff who works well together and is completely competent at doing everything that they’re supposed to be doing.

Joy: Exactly, so after that we really started to grow. I think a ton of hits were from that Collector Mania interview, and people started to say, “Oh hey there’s a new fansite out there,”

Isabel: They’ve got news, they’ve got exclusives.

Joy: Right, right. And we started to get a lot more recognition on the internet, which bumped us up, and you know, bought that new domain, we got robertpattinson.co.uk, that was--sadly we missed our first birthday.

[Laughter]

Isabel: That was really lame.

Joy: We totally forgot about it, we were like, “Oh wait! The site is one year old, we should do something.” It was really sad.

Isabel: Actually, we missed our second birthday, too. I had to remind you.

[Laughter]

Joy: We did miss our second birthday! Oh, man.

Isabel: And we almost missed--

Joy: I’m glad we remembered the third one. That’s terrible. Yeah, so then, you know, we went through a couple other server moves you know, we’ve moved servers quite a few times--or hosts, rather. And the three of us have just been working on this for a really long time, and we’re really starting to get somewhere, you know? We’ve talked about this before, there were some times where--

Isabel: It was dismal. Dismal.

Joy: It was dead.

Isabel: Nobody was coming.

Joy: We were making up news. We were like, “Here’s a kind of different picture, let’s talk about his hair in this, one.”

Isabel: It was like, “Let’s talk about the same set of Collector Mania photos.” There were so many.

Joy: It was crazy. Tara: I would search endlessly and tirelessly just to find, like you said, new pictures from the conventions, and we’d be like, “Guys! Guess what?”

Isabel: “We got one more picture, woohoo!” Tara: Yeah.

Isabel: But we also like, worked hard to try and engage the fans and different things. Like we opened up a chat and we--what else did we end up doing? We did a bunch of contests, and--

Joy: Yeah, we did a lot of contests, we had a fan section for a while.

Isabel: Yeah, we had a Fan of the Month. I remember that. That was awesome.

Joy: Yeah, we tried a bunch of different stuff to get people to come and, you know--cuz really we didn’t want the site to die during those non-news times.

Isabel: Yeah, he wasn’t doing work for a long time.

Joy: So we were trying anything we could think of. We had a newsletter for a while, do you remember the newsletter?

Isabel: That was pretty snazzy. That was pretty cool. Tara: Oh, yeah! I remember that. Aw.

Joy: The Pattinson Post.

Isabel: The Pattinson Post, oh God.

Joy: Clever.

Isabel: So clever.

Joy: We did a lotta stuff on this site in the last three years, it’s been fun. I think we’ve had a really good time, even those times when we’re like, “Let’s quit now,” but I think we’ve all really enjoyed it. And we enjoy working with each other so that’s good.

Isabel: Well, I think we should talk a little bit about what the site means to us, why we do it, what we get out of it, and just share with them, I guess, what’s our--why do we do it? Joy why don’t you start?

Joy: Well, obviously I created this site out of my pure fangirl obsession, but I’ve run a lot of fansites since starting the first one, and this one is just really special to me. It’s really close to my heart, mostly because it’s the first one I ever started, but I think that there’s something about Rob that just--I feel like I know him, even though I don’t--but he’s really personable, and I’m sure other people can agree with me on this, but I feel like he’s my friend. I think that’s why we defend him when people say bad things about him, you know? We treat him like we would any other friend. Being able to run this site and do this for him because you know, we do it for the fans, but we also do this for Rob. We do this because we want to further his career, you know? And I really believe that he’s got a lot to offer as an actor, as a person, and I wanna help him achieve his dreams, you know? If he decides to quit acting and do music, we’ll follow him that way, too. We’ll help him because we believe in him. This site is just, you know, it’s an outlet for our fangirliness, but it’s also something that we’ve put a lot of sweat and tears into. It’s kind of like our baby, we’ve worked really, really hard on this site and we’re glad that everyone enjoys it. We get a lot of e-mails--

Isabel: Daily.

Joy: From people saying they appreciate this, and we appreciate you! We appreciate the fans, you know? Because we know that you’re fans of Rob, but it makes us smile to know that there are people who are fans of us as well, and that they’re appreciative of what we do, because to tell you the truth, there are days where we think, “Why are we doing this? We should just quit.” Because sometimes it is hard running a fansite, so--

Isabel: It gets frustrating, there’s a lot of different parts that not everyone realizes that has to happen when you work on a fansite so.

Joy: Yeah, we do go through times when we’re really, really frustrated, and we don’t get the things that we need, and we have a hard time communicating with management and photographers and things like that, but you know, we stick with it because we believe in the site. We believe in Rob, and we just love to do it. It’s something that we really love. Maybe that was a little sappy, but that’s it.

[Laughter]

Isabel: Well, I agree with you, I feel the same way, sort of. Like, in a nutshell, I suppose why I do it is I’m a big fan of Rob, and I have been for a long time. Joy basically said it all: he’s really personable, he’s very upfront, very honest person, he’s a very kind person, he’s really talented, and I believe in his talent, and that’s basically why I do it, and another facet of why I continue doing it is the relationships that I’ve made while promoting Rob. I--Joy’s become one of my closest friends, and Tara the same thing. We talk constantly, almost all the time, about everything, and I don’t think--and I’ve met not just Tara and Joy, but the other staff members I met during Comic-Con and all the fans that I’ve met and people that talk to me about the site, I’m really grateful for having the opportunity to make connections and relationships with people that I wouldn’t normally need. And I just find that Rob, on the whole, has a very amazing set of fans, and so that’s basically why I do it. I do it for Rob, and I do it for my friends. Tara? Tara: I again, I am in total agreement with you guys. The main reason I joined on Pattinson Online was because I fell in love with Rob. I fell in love with everything about him: his acting, his personality, obviously his

[cough] looks, but that’s stating the obvious. I think he’s just--I think he’s a really wonderful person, I think he’s--and that’s why I’m sticking with him and through and through, because I just think that he’s completely an amazing person. Even more so than an actor. He takes time with fans, and he--I just think that he’s a people person. He likes to make people happy, he goes out of his way to make people happy, and I dunno. I really admire him as a person. I think he’s just so great, and I love supporting him and letting fans know that about him, and I just--that’s one of the reasons, is just cuz I love him. And also the friends I made through the website it’s amazing. Joy and Isabel are like--they’re my two best friends; I talk to them about everything, I complain to them about everything, you know, so we--

[Laughter] Tara: And we just have such a strong--

Isabel: It’s the same. Tara: Friendship it’s amazing, and as Isabel was saying, not just our three friendships--it extends beyond that, it’s relationships that I’ve made with past staff members--and we all can say this--with producers and photographers that we’ve met and speak to--that we met through the site. And it’s just been an amazing experience, it’s almost like we’re a part of the entertainment industry, you know? We’re almost like a media source, a media outlet. So it’s just--it’s been an amazing experience. It’s great. And that’s why I’m here, and will continue to be here.

Isabel: yeah, I completely agree with you. 100%, especially about that last part, thank you for bringing that up because it’s been a complete learning experience for me, too. I knew basic HTML, or whatever it is, and I’ve learned so much working on this site. I’ve expanded my own knowledge in different areas--we all, the three of us work so well together because we’re all really good at certain parts of the website, and together I think we make a pretty coherent whole, I guess. We work together really well, and it gives each of us a chance to excel at what we’re good at. Like, Joy is fantastic with running the site in general, but she’s really good at technical things, and Tara is fantastic with posting news and graphics, and I like to talk to people, so those three things together give us a chance to do things that--learn how to do new things, and to do things that we love, and yeah, it’s been a learning experience among other things.

Joy: It’s been a great experience, you guys, three years of awesomeness, pretty much. It’s just been great, really great. Hopefully four years, and three more years after that, I mean, we’ll keep this going as long--

Isabel: We’re gonna keep going as long as he keeps going and as long as people keep coming to the site, so-

Joy: Yeah, exactly. So keep coming so we have something to do.

[Laughter]

Isabel: Yeah, well that’s a great note to end on. Happy birthday to us. Happy Halloween to everybody who celebrates it, and we thank you for listening. Again, if you have any questions, concerns or comments, we have two new e-mails. If you wanna reach Joy, Tara, or I, you can reach us at admin.pattinsononline@gmail.com. if you have any news or photos or anything you’d like to submit to us that would go in a news post, please e-mail: news.pattinsononline@gmail.com. Again, that’s news.pattinsononline@gmail.com And once again, thanks for listening, bye from Isabel.

Joy: Bye from Joy! Tara: And a very good night from Tara.

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