Episode 004 "Pipe Cleaner"



Isabel: Hello and welcome to the PattyCast. It’s a special edition, not only is it the countdown to Twilight, but we also have our special guest on. She’s a fan, her name is Sue, she won one of our contests on the site. Hi Sue!

Sue: Hi!

Isabel: And as always, every week, we have Tara and Joy and Isabel. Hi guys!

Tara: Hey!

Joy: Hello!

Isabel: How’s everyone doing this morning?

Joy: Pretty good.

Tara: Good, good. A little bit tired, but good.

Isabel: Joy must be tired.

Joy: I am tired. It’s midnight for me.

[Laughter]

Isabel: It’s just morning. Why don’t we hop into the news? To start off really quickly with Little Ashes, there was a lotta new this week concerning Little Ashes.

Tara: One of the things that I thought was interesting was he compared Little Ashes to Twilight. And I never thought about it that way, but since he mentioned it, it’s very understandable because both of the love stories are kind of tragic. Dali and Lorca’s, of course, being a little bit more because--as Rob said--in the end, Edward and Bella figure everything out, but Dali never really does. So that was a really interesting point I thought he made out.

Isabel: Yeah, I thought that was interesting, too, cuz it actually made me stop and think about what he said for a moment. Because you don’t--the parallel is really there, for me, anyway. So when you stop and think about it, it’s true. It’s not as tragic, I would say--bella and Edward’s story--but that angsty romance sort of thing.

Joy: That’s very true. He had a lot of really good insight into it in the about.com interview. I thought it was really interesting just how--well, any time that he talks about it, you can tell that he’s really interested in this part. For one thing, it’s totally different than anything he’s done and we’ve talked about that before, but I like how he says--just how he finds it fascinating, but it was also really depressing. Because I think so many people think of Dali as just this wild, crazy guy. I mean, he was just nuts. But we know that Rob really jumped into the role and did a lot of research, and he says here that Dali was an incredibly complex person, which is true. And I guess if you were to really think about it, it would make sense but I think on the surface we don’t usually consider Dali to be like that. We just kind of think he’s a crazy guy who paints. At least, that’s how I see him. I don’t know. I’m gonna get stoned for that comment, I’m sure.

[Laughter]

Joy: But this is the quote that Rob says, “He was an incredibly complex person. I’m not saying that I am--I’m not, at all.” I don’t know if that’s true. I think he’s probably more complex than he thinks, but--

Isabel: Yeah, but he never thinks he’s anything special, so that’s a typical Rob quote right there.

Joy: True, very true.

Isabel: I think in a way, you’re right. Cuz I haven’t studied him extensively--only briefly during a course-- but he’s eccentric so people don’t really think of him as being--

Tara: Oh yeah, they don’t see beyond his surrealism.

Isabel: Yeah, or his quirkiness, I suppose, which is kind of funny because Rob’s the same way.

Tara: Yeah.

Joy: There’s a website called ubitquity65--I could be saying that wrong--they basically have this huge spotlight on Little Ashes with a lot of information, really in-depth synopsis, character profiles--I guess is the word--it talks a lot about the historical context, which was really interesting. You know, because it was a really fiery time, I guess, politically around this time.

Isabel: It’s huge, it just--the whole background of the movie. Basically, if people really want to know what he’s about and what the movie’s about, shouldn’t they read this article? It’s like a paper written on the movie, kind of.

Joy: Oh, definitely. I mean, there are some spoilers, so if you’re a total spoiler-phobe, then stay away, but generally, from what I can tell--and I don’t know a whole lot about dali, just other than what I’ve read on the internet--but it seems like they tried to follow his life as closely as possible. I mean, he was a pretty private person. Obviously, we don’t know a lot about his life, but I don’t think it’s completely fictionalized-- you know how people usually do in Hollywood--but it seems like they’re trying to really fit it in the real historical context. You know, and of course there’s gonna be some ficitionalization; that’s just the way it’s gonna be with a movie like this, but it seems like the director and everyone involved is just very interested in telling the story the way they really believe it was. So I think it’ll be interesting. I’m excited to see it, if we ever do get to see it.

Isabel: What I found interesting about all of it--what I liked about the movie was that most of the people who worked on it were Spanish. It just seemed like--the actual production company is Regency Releasing, right? But I liked the fact that the people that he worked with, he said that everybody there spoke Spanish around him. I really liked that about his experience filming this movie.

Joy: Well, correct me if I’m wrong, but we got a release date for Little Ashes to actually be in theaters. Is that right?

Isabel: We did, .

Joy: in March?

Tara: Yeah.

Joy: Now, I’m assuming that’s gonna be as worldwide as it can be: probably in the States, maybe in England, I would imagine in Spain, I don’t know. But yeah, that was the last thing that we’ve heard was that March next year will be when we get it. So that’s--it’s great that they’re pegging down a date, you know?

Isabel: Yeah.

Joy: Cuz I always hate looking at the words, ‘limited release,’ and I’m like, “No! Don’t limit it, the rest of us wanna see it, ya know?”

[Laughter]

Isabel: It’s just weird, though, with the popularity that he’s getting, that they’re not releasing it to a wider audience. Like, people want to see it.

Tara: Yeah.

Joy: I’m sure they will. They must, but I guess--well, not necessarily.

Isabel: No, not necessarily.

Joy: That’s actually probably not true.

Isabel: No, because they haven’t done it for How to Be.

Joy: That’s true, and there are plenty of really well-known actors who do little indie films that no one’s ever heard of, other than like, their core fans. So, I mean, I don’t know. I say, “Oh, I’m sure they will follow the fans, “ but they might not. We might just get a few theaters showing it, and that’s that. And if you really wanna see it, you have to hunt it down.

Isabel: Yeah, I don’t’ think it’ll be widespread even though we want it to be. Even if MTV’s doing a little media blitz on it itself. I dunno. Especially because there’s a Hollywood movie that’s coming out that’s based on Dali.

Joy: Well, there’s a couple, aren’t there? I saw, yeah, there’s an article out there that’s comparing like--I wanna say three, including Little Ashes, there’s like two other ones that are coming out. One’s with Antonio Banderas, and I don’t even know.

Isabel: Of course it’s Antonio Banderas!

Joy: Apparently Dali is all the rage.

[Laughter]

Joy: But the question is, “Will his mustache be as awesome as Rob’s?” I don’t think so.

[Laughter]

Tara: No, no way.

Joy: C’mon. Before we move on to any of his other movies, there were a couple really good quotes that he had in the about.com interview, just about working on the set of Little Ashes, which I thought were really interesting, the first one says, “I just researched tons and tons of stuff because everyone spoke Spanish on the set, and so I just read all day. It was the first time that I ever really got into characterization, trying to work on movements. There was a photo of him pointing, and I kept trying to figure out how he pointed for like, three days. I’ve never done that for any job. I was doing tons of stuff on his walk and such.” And then he goes on to say later on, “There was so much about him

[Dali] that I found fascinating. It’s depressing how he did it himself, and yet everyone sees him as this mask. He wanted that, but it’s so funny how he was so much more than just the bizarre clown that he was at the end of his life, who only cared about money.” I just really like those quotes, especially the one about him really getting into the characterization. Cuz we know that he’s talked in interviews relating to Twilight how in between Twilight and Harry Potter, he just wanted to teach himself to act, and this is just kind of another little snippet that just shows us he really is an actor. He’s not just this pretty face who just walks onto a role and is like, “Here I am, I’m awesome.” He’s really doing his best, he puts a lotta effort into it, and you know, I don’t know if we can say that about every actor. I think there are a lotta actors out there who do just kinda fall into a role and are like, “Well, I’ll just do it,”

Isabel: No, it’s true, and he’s not just a pretty boy when he does his--he actually is very thoughtful about--which will lead into the discussion on some things he said in the Variety interview about other movies that he’s working on, but he really thinks about his parts. It’s not just like, he reads a script, he memorizes it, and then he’s just acting. I think he actually wants to do whatever he’s choosing to do, which is great.

Tara: Yeah, because even in the Variety article, he mentions that he doesn’t care if he’s gonna work with a big name director. If the script is rubbish, he’s not going to take part in it. If the script is really good, whether he’s doing it with Steven Spielberg or some type of indie director, he’s gonna go for it. So he’s really passionate about how well written the screenplays are. So, I think that says something about him, too. He’s not looking at it like, this, “Oh, this is gonna make me really popular.”

Isabel: I think it just blows my mind how not influenced he is by big names or anything. It’s--anything he does is based on, “Do I want to do it, or not?” Which is fantastic, I dunno.

Joy: Well, in that same interview he talks about the new movie, Parts per Billion, which we don’t really know that much about--but like you were saying--what he was talking about, the scripts, he mentions that it has a very poetic script which I kind of don’t know what to make of that. What kind of movie is this going to be? He says, “It’s ridiculously poetic. I’ve never seen a script like this.” That’s what he says. And I think that’s just really interesting, and I can see him being really attracted by that, you know, “Hey, this script is really interesting, it’s really different,”

Isabel: That’s what I liked about that, too.

Joy: So I really like it. I like that he’s just going for a variety of things, you know? He’s not just like, “I’m gonna ride on the tide of twilight.” I think he’s really picking good stuff.

Tara: Oh yeah, he wants to prove that he can be a diverse actor. He doesn’t wanna, you know, ride on Twilight’s coattail, like you said. He wants to prove himself to his audience, you know?

Isabel: But no one really knows anything about the movie; he hasn’t said anything much about it.

Tara: No.

Isabel: In my notes, I also wrote about Parts per Billion. How he said it was poetic and that makes me think that he’s just so cerebral about his parts, it’s not just something to do.

Joy: Right.

Isabel: Yeah, let’s move on to interviews, let’s talk a little bit more about the Variety interview. Thanks again to Cilla to transcribing for us, that was great to have--

Joy: Yeah, I threw that at her, I was like, “Please transcribe this video! Cuz we want it for the podcast,” And she got it to me in like an hour, she’s amazing.

Isabel: Fantastic.

Joy: We love you, Cilla.

[Laughter]

Isabel: Let’s start off with talking about some of his insights into Edward. I really liked how he seemed to have an epiphany during the interview about Edward and himself, and what Catherine Hardwicke said about him. I thought that was really interesting about how everyone--a lot of people see Edward as sort of a very flat, one-dimensional sort of character who’s perfect and doesn’t have much going for him, but I don’t really wanna say that too much. I think that he’s shown to be a little more deep than a lot of people say he is, and I think with the way Rob’s been talking about trying to get into character, what he’s been doing to try and relate to Edward. It seems like everyone’s asking him, “How do you relate to Edward?” And I think he’s come out with pretty good answers. I really like that he says that he’s so real. I really like that he says that he’s not a nice guy, sometimes.

Tara: Yeah, that’s what I liked abut the Variety interview. It’s because it was so raw and uncut.

Isabel: Yeah, exactly.

Tara: It wasn’t scripted, not at all. This was him, and the highlight of the interview is--like you said--when he said that, you know, ‘If you don’t like me--seriously, when I like someone I tell them, don’t like me.’ And it just shows how honest he is. He’s not sugar-coating anything. He’s not trying to be someone that he isn’t, so.

Isabel: No.

Joy: Well, I thought it was interesting when he talks about he’s had this realization, “Oh that’s why Stefanie said that I wouldn’t be a good boyfriend,” And he’s kind of amused by it, in the interviewer, she’s like, “Oh you are a good boyfriend. You’re the fantasy boyfriend,” And I’m like--

[Laughter]

Joy: “Do YOU know the difference between Rob and Edward?”

[Laughter]

Joy: When she said it, I was like, “What in the world?” And Rob was--he’s said this several times--they’re just transferring--

Isabel: Yeah, he doesn’t get it.

Joy: No.

Isabel: But I think he’s right a lotta the time, though. I think there is a majority of his fans who have an Edward transference. That’s fine; that’s just the way it’s going to be, but I don’t think that’s true for all of his fans. I don’t think that’s true for even most of his fans. I think we know who Robert Pattinson is, and--

Joy: And I’m sure we’ll discuss that more, later, in-depth.

[Laughter]

Joy: I have a lot to say on this podcast, that’s for sure.

Isabel: I think our podcasts are getting longer and longer.

Joy: They are. I think I’m gonna have to cut this out so we can get down to thirty minutes instead of two hours.

[Laughter]

Isabel: No, no no. Talk about his makeup, too. I thought that was interesting--and how they painted it on in like a--they airbrushed it on. He seemed to have not much--like he seemed to have a lot to say about it and how they did it.

Joy: Yeah, he said that he doesn’t have many lines on his face, and so it took away all his expressions, which is true. He has a very--

Isabel: Smooth kinda face, yeah.

Joy: Yeah, I guess smooth is the word I’m looking for. He doesn’t have a lot of like, definition in his face, I don’t know if I’m explaining it right, but I can definitely see how if they put really white makeup on him, his face’ll disappear. I mean, you know?

[Laughter]

Joy: His features are very smooth and classic, and--

[Laughter]

Joy: So that must’ve looked hilarious.

Isabel: Well you can see it on the set pics, like when they’re not shooting. The ones where people are taking pictures of him like, when the water bottle--you know which ones I’m talking about? And with his sunglasses on? If you look at the photos it looks like his face is sort of blurred because the makeup’s so white. Did you ever notice that? Tara and

Joy: Yeah.

Isabel: I think that’s what you’re talking about. So, I totally get what you’re saying.

Joy: Well, maybe in the next movie Edward will grow a beard and we’ll be good to go.

[Laughter]

Joy: I love Rob with the beard, I have to say. I love it. But anyway, anyway. I could go on and on about his facial hair, but I won’t.

Isabel: But you won’t because that is an aside for later.

[Laughter]

Isabel: Okay, well I really wanna talk about--I think Tara wants to talk about too--is the last thing I’m gonna talk about the Variety video, is he talked about How to Be. And like, little insight into the marketing and all that stuff, and I thought that was really interesting, cuz we hardly ever get news about How to Be, and it said in the video--well he said in the video--that it’s not being marketed basically, at all. What do you guys think about that?

Tara: Well, yeah, one thing that he pointed out with both How to Be and Little Ashes is that he thinks if it weren’t for Twilight that nobody would be interested in seeing the films at all. And, I don’t know. I think it’s a shame that How to Be may not get marketed because it’s a little indie film from England, you know? It’s a shame because I think it has a lot of heart to it, and it’s something that we all can relate to, especially people in their twenties. And I don’t know. I really hope it gets marketed because I really wanna see it, above and beyond all the films that he’s currently making.

Isabel: yeah you and I are the ultimate How to Be fangirls, I heard. And I just want it released more.

[Laughter]

Isabel: It needs to be out there! I can’t wait ‘til it comes out on DVD. We need to see it in a theater. It’s sad because they refer to it as like, a really weird indie film--like a really weird British film or something like that.

Tara: Right, he said it’s very random. And that’s why he liked it, yeah.

Isabel: Well, I think that’s why a lot of his fans liked it because it’s really random and it seemed like something you would really enjoy. Moving on to other interviews, the MTV interview with Laura Culpepper. I really , really enjoyed reading this interview because it was basically just two friends joking around, it seemed like. It was so relaxed and he was making fun of her the entire time, and it was so cute.

Joy: Yeah, it was really, really cute.

Tara: It’s so funny cuz that’s exactly what I have in my notes here, you know, is that it was adorable and lighthearted, and you could tell he was totally comfortable talking with her because of the way he was teasing her and jabbing her with you know, like, “Ah, you’re whole career is pretty much shot.”

[Laughter]

Tara: And it was so nice to see cuz he just seems so relaxed.

Isabel: Well, I think he needs interviews like that once in a while because it’s those serious interviews that are the same questions over and over again, and what is your acting technique, and why do girls love Edward, how do you relate to a vampire who never dies and is perfect, like you know?

Joy: How do you get your hair like that?

Isabel: Ugh! Stop asking him about that.

Joy: I probably have watched 50 videos just in the last couple of days--trying to catch up--and almost every single one is like, “So, how do you get your hair like that?”

[Laughter]

Joy: I would be like, “If you ask me one more time about my hair, I’m just gonna shave my head.”

Isabel: He said that though, he said that! Well, he said he’d get a haircut, but--

Joy: It’s so annoying! Like, I am with everyone--I adore his hair. I think it’s really fun, it kind of is part of his personality, but for the love--they need to stop asking him about it. How do you think he gets his hair like that? He just runs his hand through it. He’s a guy, c’mon.

Isabel: He’s a boy, he doesn’t wash his hair for a while, and then he plays with his hair all the time with his hands, so it sticks up.

Joy: Exactly, it doesn’t take rocket science to figure out.

Isabel: Not that big of a mystery.

Joy: It annoys me cuz it’s like a waste of question. Ask him something useful.

Isabel: They never ask any useful questions, which is why I really enjoy interviews like the MTV one where he’s completely relaxed, and I think he’s taking it as an opportunity to be goofy, and he can because it’s just MTV, right?

Tara: Yeah.

Isabel: So, yeah.

Joy: The fact that he talks about buying underpants, I mean--

[Laughter]

Joy: That’s him being comfortable, you know, and really those interviews turn out the best. I’m just--I was thinking back to when he first got cast as Edward. His interviews were practically incoherent, you know?

Isabel: Yeah

[Laughter]

Joy: I mean, he couldn’t string a sentence together--

Isabel: No, he was babbling.

Joy: He would get really nervous, and I think he was just trying so hard to get the right answer for everyone cuz he was kind of under a lot of pressure, there were so many people who were like, “Oh, he can’t be Edward!” And all these things, but now I think his interview skills have really gotten better. Plus, I love seeing these more relaxed interviews like the one with MTV, like the one from Variety. He does so much better.

Isabel: Kudos to Laura. She was awesome.

Joy: She does a really great job. She’s really casual and fun, she asks great questions,

Isabel: We should have her on the show. Hey Laura! Contact us if you wanna record with us.

[Laughter]

Joy: Seriously, let’s do it. Speaking of people on the show, I think poor Sue died. Poor Sue, we’re talking over here.

Isabel: Sue, are you still there?

Sue: Yeah, I just have to get it together.

Joy: Which of his movies are you most excited about? I guess Twilight and Little Ashes because, yeah Twilight I was a big fan of the book first, and Little Ashes because my family is kind of a great fan of Dali, so yeah, I’m excited to see him in this role.

Joy: That’ll be really cool.

Isabel: Excellent.

Joy: That’s awesome, I’m excited for this, too.

Isabel: Isn’t it interesting for you to watch the video interviews of Rob in English? Is it interesting to see those things?

Sue: Yeah, I mean, I’m just--you know, I’m still in school, so I’m still in class learning English, but yeah, I think I understand very much. So it’s pretty interesting you know, and we have some websites who are--which are transcribing everything for us.

Isabel: Oh.

Joy: Oh, that’s awesome.

Sue: Yeah, that’s pretty great because I can’t understand everything, but yeah.

Isabel: Let’s talk about the last part in the interview section we have where Rob is proposing to K-Stew, all this time, apparently--

[Laughter]

Joy: I thought that was so cute.

Isabel: It’s so cute. I like how he’s sort of playing on the fact that he’s supposed to be in love with her so he’s completely doing it over the top, and it’s just so adorable, she’s just like, “Get away.”

[Laughter]

Joy: She’s totally immune to him, it’s so funny to watch.

Isabel: She just looks at him like, “Are you serious?”

[Laughter]

Joy: Thousands of fangirls are like, wanting to jump on him, and she’s like, “So? It’s Rob.”

Isabel: She’s so over it.

[Laughter]

Joy: I love it. It’s hilarious to me.

Isabel: She shoots him down so many times and doesn’t even know it. Like I love the interviews that they have where he’s like, “Eh? Eh?” And she looks at him like, “What?”

[Laughter]

Joy: They work really well together, it’s really funny to watch them.

Isabel: It is.

Joy: I enjoy watching them together. Like, in the unscripted interview they were really funny together.

Isabel: Let’s talk about Twilight. Okay, I wanna talk about what we’re looking forward to. I think Joy should go last--

[Laughter]

Joy: Or else I’ll say everything. I: Yeah, Tara why don’t you go first? What are you looking forward to the most?

Tara: I am just looking forward to seeing how everything is going to come together. I actually did really find Twilight very entertaining while reading it, and just to see everything come off on-screen. I can’t wait for that. I can’t wait to finally see Rob in his first mo--I mean, he was in harry Potter, but collectively, fifteen minutes--so I can’t wait to see him in his like, really full length feature movie. And I can’t wait to see how everything’s put together, and see how--especially all those graphics, like the CGI effects and everything. I know that we were talking about it before in one of our previous episodes where it looked kinda funky. Yeah.. So I wanna see how--if it’s gonna bother me as much as it did for the previews.

Isabel: From the clip.

Tara: Yeah, exactly. Now that they’ve had more time to edit it and put it all together. So I just can’t wait to see the whole thing.

Isabel: That’s actually what I wrote down in my notes, I’m looking forward to seeing it all together. I’m not looking for one specific scene because we have already a variety of scenes in the trailers, or the sneak peeks, and things like that. So I just wanna see it all together. I wanna see the story come alive, basically, and I’m really, really looking forward to seeing Rob in the theater again. Like you said, we haven’t seen him since Goblet of Fire. That’s really strange that that’s what started off his fans, and we haven’t seen him in the theater since then. Yeah, that’s what I’m looking forward to the most. Sue, what’re you looking forward to the most, for Twilight?

Sue: Yeah. I’m--as you said--everything’s put together, because as I said, I’m a fan of the books, so I’m really excited to see what Catherine did, what robert and Kristen did. And yeah, I think that’s most of it because, I dunno, I just hope we don’t get disappointed. I don’t think we will, but yeah. I mean, I don’t know. A friend of mine told me yesterday she has the feeling that we saw the whole movie--

[Laughter]

Sue: Because of all the sneak peeks and all the trailers and yeah, I just wanna see it all put together, so yeah.

Isabel: Joy.

[Laughter]

Joy: I really wanna say everything, but I know that that’s a really cheap answer. But honestly, you guys know, and anyone who’s been listening to the past couple episodes know how big an Edward fangirl I am. Forget about Rob, I wanna see Edward. I mean, seriously, I’m really excited just to see my imagination come to life, you know what I mean? and I know part of me’s gonna be thinking, “Ooh! That’s Rob!“ The whole time, but I’m really excited to have Rob kind of disappear and have it just be Edward on-screen for me. And I’m sure I’m not alone in that because I think so many of us have just had this picture of Edward in my head, and I mean, like he’s said several times, the fans just want something physical. They want something tangible to put to their imagination, and I’m totally with that. I think I’m sane enough to realize that Rob is not Edward; that they’re not one and the same, but I’m excited to see Edward. I’m excited to see all of my favorite scenes. My favorite scene in Twilight is the Port Angeles scene, where Edward like, pulls up in the car and is about to kick some you-know-what, and that is like my absolute favorite scene in the whole book, and I don’t know why. Everyone’s always like, “Ooh! The meadow! The meadow!” And I love the meadow, but that is my favorite scene. So I’m excited to see him, like jump out of the car and be like--

Tara: Ready to rip throats.

Joy: Yeah, exactly I’m so excited about that. I’m so excited. Okay, I’m done.

[Laughter]

Isabel: What’re we nervous or worried about? Tara, do you wanna start this one, too?

Tara: What’m I worried about? This may not be so good, but I’m worried about dying.

Isabel: YEAH! That’s what I’m worried about too!

[Laughter]

Joy: What?

[Laughter]

Isabel: I’m worried about being crushed.

[Laughter]

Tara: You know what I’m gonna do, I’m gonna wrap myself in bubble wrap, baby.

Isabel: Tara you don’t have me to protect you anymore!

Tara: I know, I can’t grab onto you! So I’m gonna have to like--and I’m like five foot nothing, so I’m gonna be squished, and--

Isabel: Tara is tiny.

[Laughter]

Isabel: I thought I was like carrying along a child, or whatever, at Comic-Con. I was like, “Tara hold my hand!” No, I’m just kidding. No, that’s what I’m worried about. I’m worried about the actual premiere night, the release night of going to the movie, but I’m also worried about the fan reaction after, and I don’t--the before is bad, I dunno about the after.

[Laughter]

Isabel: It’s gonna be crazy.

Tara: I should bring a camera.

Isabel: You should bring a camera. Sue, what are you nervous or worried about, anything about Twilight?

Sue: What I’m really worried about is seeing Rob dazzling because I really can’t imagine how they could’ve done it, so it could be bad or it could be good. So, I really couldn’t imagine--in what was written in the books, I really couldn’t imagine--it didn’t get in my head. So, I’m really worried about seeing it in the movie on the screen, and I’m alright, it’s--yeah. And then, as you said, the fan reactions because I’m really worried especially about Rob because--

[Mhm’s from others]

Sue: Hopefully he won’t die.

Isabel: I hope he hired really big body guards.

Joy: Bigger than him.

Isabel: Well, it doesn’t take that much to be bigger than Rob, okay? I mean, sorry!

[Laughter]

Tara: Oh yeah, I know, poor guy, he’s like a pipe cleaner.

[Laughter]

Isabel: He did work out though, he did work out.

Tara: Points for effort.

Isabel: Yeah, Rob, points for effort.

Tara: I like him that way, though.

Isabel: Okay, Joy, why don’t you talk about what you’re nervous or worried about?

Joy: Well I agree with both of you--with what everybody’s saying. I’m worried about how the dazzling is gonna look. I think it could be really weird. Or it could be really good, cuz like sue said, I haven’t--I haven’t gotten it in my head. I don’t even know how to imagine it because the way she describes it in the book is so out of the normal, you know? Like it’s nothing that you see in nature, so I’m just trying to figure out in my mind what it’s gonna look like, and I have no idea. So, I think on the screen it’s gonna be weird either way cuz I’m gonna be like, “Oh, he’s sparkling in the sun.” But they have George Lucas’s company, Industrial Light and Magic, working on it, and that’s a good company, you know, they’re not amateurs. So they’re obviously gonna do a good job, it’s just whether or not it’s gonna match up with what people are imagining, I think.

Isabel: Yeah, I agree with you. It’s hard to please everybody.

Sue: Everybody has a different opinion, too. Yeah, whatever. So I guess you know.

[Laughter]

Isabel: Yes, totally. He can’t please everybody, basically.

Sue: Yeah.

Joy: So true.

Isabel: What are our expectations for the movie, or for Rob? I--in terms of the movie, my expectations are that his accent is gonna be flawless, but as for like, everything else, my expectations for him--I really want there to be more fan red carpet interviews as opposed to press. I hope he spends a lotta time with the fans because it’s a very fan driven sort of project, this movie--and this book, I think. But as for expectations, I think that it’s just gonna be crazy. I’m afraid for him.

[Laughter]

Joy: It’s gonna be completely insane, and we’ve discussed before how it could go either way. It could be really good or it could be really bad. I think there might be a mix. I think he’s gonna get good reactions and bad reactions. Not to say that I think he’s gonna be bad because I don’t, I think he’s gonna do a great job, we’ve seen how much preparation he’s put into that, and I’m looking forward to seeing that on the screen, you know? Acting-wise, I have high expectations for him because I think that he has put so much preparation into it, and I want to see that translate onto the screen. But as with anything, with any performance, no matter what the actor, there’s gonna be positive and negative reactions, and I think he’s prepared for that. I think he’s already thinking that everyone’s gonna hate it, so I dunno. But I don’t think everyone’s gonna hate it. I think the majority of people are gonna love it and he’s gonna get even more fans because of it, but you know, there’s always negative reaction. There’s always gonna be people who are gonna say, “Oh, he was terrible, I can’t believe they picked him as Edward,” They’re gonna go right back to where they started at the beginning when they were hating him before they loved him, you know? So--

Isabel: I think that at the end of the day, that people are gonna be pleased with his performance, and I don’t wanna say that with utter certainty, cuz like I said, Twilight’s not my favorite thing, but you’re just right in the fact that he puts so much of himself into this role that that’s the expectation, is to see how it actually is. And I think you listeners notice, but Tara has disappeared from the podcast. She had to leave because it’s her mom’s birthday and she’s throwing a surprise party, and Tara’s awesome like that, so you’ll have Joy, Sue, and I for the rest of the podcast. Let’s talk about our plans for seeing the movie. I’m dragging my--not dragging, she actually said she would go--taking my friend, and she said she would go but it’s because she doesn’t know anything about Twilight. She doesn’t know what it is. I had to tell her it was a book, and she has no idea who Rob is--

[Laughter]

Isabel: And the only reason that she knows about him is because of the website, and I think she’s going out of curiosity cuz she wants to know what the big deal is, so yeah. That should be fun. What about you guys?

Sue: I’ll probably go on a pre-premiere from the movie, but I dunno with who I will be there, because I’m on a boarding school, and I’m living on three places at the moment. So I have to go with my friends at the boarding school, and with my friends at home, and with my family, yeah, you know, so I don’t know but I will go definitely on the pre-premiere. If nobody wants to go with me, I’ll be alone there, so.

[Laughter]

Sue: I guess there are so much Twilight fans that I won’t be alone--

Isabel: No, you won’t be alone at all.

Joy: That’s so true.

Isabel: Okay, Joy what’re your plans.

Joy: I’m really excited about it, of course--

Isabel: are you dressing up?

[Laughter]

Joy: I didn’t even think about that! Oh my gosh, that’s totally--Woooo!

Isabel: What would you dress up as? A teenager?

[Laughter]

Isabel: Like, there’s no costume.

Joy: No idea, no idea.

Isabel: For it, I was joking.

Joy: Um, I am not. I’m totally gonna talk with my friends because we are gonna dress up and go, hmm--

Isabel: Dress up as what?

Joy: Thanks for the idea, it’ awesome! Wait what?

Isabel: She dresses like you and I do!

[Laughter]

Joy: I’ll just wear my normal clothes and be like, “I’m bella, what’re you talking about?” Genius. Genius.

[Laughter]

Joy: No seriously, I’m going with about five of my friends. I have gotten them all addicted to Twilight. I was quite proud of myself because literally I was all alone in my little fandom world, and nobody knew anything about Twilight. Like, they would give me weird looks when I said, “Oh yeah, one of my favorite books is about a vampire!” They were like, “Are you kidding me? Vampire book?” But then I made one of my friends read it, and so now she’s totally obsessed with it, and then we got someone else to read it, and on and on. There was one point where I had four of my friends reading them simultaneously. Like, they went and bought extra copies so they were all reading it, it was hilarious. And, one of my friends moms is now reading it because she was like, “What are you all reading? What are you going on about?” It’s insane. We’re gonna go hopefully on the 21st, some of the theaters here are playing it only on the 27th, but there are a couple theaters that are playing it on the 21st, so we’re gonna try to get in there. There’s also a preview on the 19th and the 20th that’s playing, and one of our high school students, Lynn--who is awesome, shout out to her--has been going out of her way to get tickets for us because we’re her favorite teachers, and she loves Twilight too which is really awesome. So I’d be super excited if we got to do that. It’s great. I’m gonna be able to share this with friends because it’s such--it’s a big deal for me, you know? Everyone knows I’m a big Twilight fan, and so this is gonna be big. I’ve been really looking forward to it.

Isabel: Alright, onto our next segment, it’s not gonna be a weekly thing, but it’s actually my favorite segment this week, it’s called the Soapbox--

[Laughter]

Isabel: And we’re gonna talk about the crazy fans, the insanity. How far is too far? Because I think we’ reached that point a long time ago, and it’s now just escalating to craziness. I think it becomes a huge concern when fans start hurting each other to try and get to see somebody.

Joy: Oh, definitely.

Isabel: Do you guys have any thoughts on that? I’m just trying to pick my words really well.

Joy: Yeah, I think it’s just insane, it really is insane. It’s disappointing. There was a time where I really thought that Rob’s fans were more mature than other celebrities’ , you know? I’ve been involved in fandoms all different kinds celebrities, shows, whatever, and generally, the fans are just psychotic. There’s no other word for it. And I really thought that from what we’ve seen, Rob’s fans seem to be more mature. But now with all this Twilight craze, there’s like this whole new batch of nuts-o’s--

Isabel: Crazies. Crazies.

Joy: And I think--this is gonna sound wrong--but I think it’s that there are so many people who honestly and truly think that Edward and Rob are the same person, and they cannot distinguish. And that is a scary thing.

Isabel: That’s also really scary, but I think you have a really good point. I actually thought you were going to say, that I don’t think there are a lotta people who realize that robert Pattinson isn’t going to date you.

[Laughter]

Sue: Yeah.

Joy: That is also true. We talked about this on the last episode, it’s so true. It’s so true.

Isabel: Just because you got to meet him in Dallas doesn’t mean he’s going to ask for your number, like, chill out.

Joy: Oh, wow. It’s just amazing. It’s absolutely amazing. Just to see the look of craziness--there’s no other word for it. There’s no other word to describe this other than crazy.

Isabel: Well, we’ve said crazy. It’s insanity, it’s absolute--it’s disgusting, actually.

Joy: It is.

Isabel: Just stop and look at what’s going on. It doesn’t reflect well on any of his fans, regardless of whether we’re all doing it or not, because no one’s gonna say, “Well look how well-behaved those fans are,” they’re only gonna see the fact that there were some fans who ran over another fan. Her face was completely bloody from the ground.

Joy: Well seriously, at this point it’s almost kind of embarrassing for me to say, “Oh, I’m a Rob fan, or Oh, I’m a Twilight fan.” Because people are gonna think that I’m a psychotic person who’s gonna trample on others just to get my way, and that’s not okay. It’s just not okay, I’m sorry.

Isabel: And not only that, but people think that all we are are ridiculously stupid fans who just know how to scream and not pay attention to anything that’s going on.

Joy: Seriously.

Isabel: Ugh. It gets me so riled up.

Joy: If I wanted to hear screaming all day long, I would just go and let my third graders run around on the playground all day long.

Isabel: Yeah, if I wanna hear screaming, I would listen to children all day. I feel like when it’s time for an appearance, or it’s time for an interview, or anything like that, you wanna hear what he has to say, so why are you screaming?

Joy: Yeah, you can’t listen and scream at the same time, it’s just not possible.

Isabel: No, you’re not listening to him, because a lot of people read a lot of the articles that are coming out there, and I don’t think people are listening to what Rob’s saying, so we picked out a couple of quotes about his thoughts about the craze, basically, so Joy do you wanna read some of that because, if you’re actually listening to this, I want you to listen to what he’s saying. He’s saying he doesn’t like it, so please stop.

Joy: Yeah, I picked out a few choice quotes from some of the most recent interviews that Rob’s done, and this is just a tiny selection. Believe me, I could’ve gone on and on with it. Here are the top few that I chose: The first one is from the Entertainment Weekly.com video interview that he did, and he said: “The more people scream the more you wanna say like, ‘Don’t, seriously, it’s not worth it.’ It’s a really emotional experience to have people scream at you. Your immediate reaction is to start crying or something. So not like I thought it would react. When people are pressing loads and loads of energy, you’re like--you can kind of feel it; that kind of energy is like, overwhelming.” That’s just really honest. He’s talked about how he has panic attacks, you know? In the Dark Horizons interview he said, “I don’t know why it still shocks me. I mean, I’ve been going for the last three weeks-- just going to different cities all around the world, just to get to these planned mobbings where everybody just screams, and screams, and screams. But every single time I get so nervous and kind of cold sweats and everything, so I doubt that I’m ready.” In that same interview, he talks about how in Italy, when he was in Rome promoting, he actually started crying because he got so freaked out, and Kristen Stewart leaned over and was like, “Are you crying? What’s wrong?” And I’m thinking, the fact that you are making a grown man cry because you’re freaking screaming in his face--

[Laughter]

Isabel: It’s alarming.

Joy: I don’t understand that.

Isabel: It’s alarming!

Joy: It is!

Isabel: You have a thousand people screaming at the top of their lungs at you, and you’re just standing there. Like, think about it. You cant’ take one per--I can’t take one person screaming at me. I’d scream right back at them.

Joy: Oh, I know, if one person screamed at me--I can’t imagine having seven thousand people scream.

Isabel: Well, I wouldn’t cry, I’d scream right back at them, and he can’t scream right back at them.

[Laughter]

Joy: Yeah you would. :I’m waiting for him to do it. I would love to see Rob just like start screaming in someone’s face and see how they react to it. You know he won’t, but that would be absolutely hilarious.

Isabel: That would be. Well, it’s also like, he does these interviews with a little bit of a smirk and a little bit of a chuckle, and he’s trying to make a joke out of it, but if you listen to the words he saying: “Planned mobbing,” that’s like, intentional wording, I think.

Joy: He’s said it several times; that’s not the only time that we’ve heard that phrase, and--

Isabel: No, he’s said ‘mob’ before.

Joy: He says it repeatedly, ‘It’s overwhelming, I get upset, it’s so emotional,’ I only picked a few quotes, but there were many, many times where he’s talked about how much it freaks him out. And just the fact that these people would rather scream at someone than listen to him? Like, it just doesn’t make sense to me. It really doesn’t make sense. I mean, yeah, when he first comes up on stage, scream as much as you want. Yay, yay, yay. But when he starts talking, shut up and let him talk. Let him have his say. Isn’t that what you came for? It doesn’t make sense to me.

Isabel: And I want to say that we understand where you’re coming from with the excitement. Like Tara’s not here to talk about it, but she and I were both at Comic-Con, and we screamed when he first came on stage. Like, we were screaming, as well. He was so close and he was right there, but when it was time for the interview, that’s when you have to sit, and be quiet, and actually listening to the questions that are being asked and the answers that he’s saying. It’s etiquette, like when someone’s talking, you stop to listen. I don’t know, I just feel like not only has the behavior been appalling with fans hurting other fans, but the amount of disrespect that people are showing to Rob, and I don’t think people are realizing that it is disrespectful.

Joy: It is disrespectful. Speaking from a teacher’s point of view, honestly, if I’m talking in front of my classroom, if my students even are just like, talking and not paying attention to me, there are consequences. It’s disrespectful and I tell them that. If my students started screaming at me while I was talking? There would be hell to pay, let me tell you. And we expect Rob--we expect these celebrities, just because they’re celebrities, to just take all of this screaming and not feel anything about it? It’s just not right. It doesn’t make sense to me.

Isabel: No, it doesn’t.

Joy: What do you think, Sue?

Sue: I think it’s all so crazy. At first I was like, oh my God, I can’t imagine. It turns so fast, you know? Before twilight there was no one really knew him, you know? And it was like--I have some friends in my school, nobody knew robert Pattinson. I was the only one that liked him, and when we went to the Goblet of Fire, I was like, “Oh my God, Oh my God, Rob Pattinson!” And they were like, “Who is that?” I dunno. Nobody liked him, nobody did, yeah, and suddenly I guess it’s all around the world because, I don’t know, it’s just so weird. And suddenly they are absolutely freaking out, and I can’t understand this because they over kind of--

Isabel: They rile themselves up.

Sue: I think they overstep what they are really allowed to do. That’s definitely what I think because he’s still human, he’s still--the thing is he’s kind of you know. He’s a person like you and me, and so I don’t know why. In one point it’s okay, as you said, when he’s coming up on the stage, screaming, let the excitement out, but when it comes to this, as we said, this girl broke his nose?

Isabel: Yeah, she broke her nose. Her face got scratched up really badly.

Sue: Yeah, and when it came--when it comes to this point, I think it’s over, you know?

Isabel: It’s too much.

Sue: It’s definitely too much, so I don’t know what to say else. I just can’t understand. I don’t understand these fans because I really think--and sorry for saying this--I feel ashamed for those fans.

Isabel: We feel the same way, don’t worry, say it.

Joy: I agree.

Isabel: We are quite ashamed of those fans.

Joy: Like, I don’t even wanna associate with people like that; that’s just--it’s horrible that you would be wiling to trample on someone just so that you can get what you want. That’s a horrible thing.

Isabel: Well, someone almost trampled Tara, she’s--Tara is barely five foot--she’s very petite, and I’m half a foot taller than she is, and --

[Laughter]

Isabel: I had to hold her hand while we were going through the lines and everything because people would just walk all over her. Actually, somebody who was old enough to be her grandmother almost ran over Tasha while she was trying to get her ticket for Comic-Con. It’s crazy.

Joy: That is ridiculous.

Isabel: And the last thing I wanna talk about with Rob’s thoughts, which was really important to me, and everybody else on the site. We actually changed some things on the site because of it. It has to do with his musical performances. I found it really heartbreaking that he said that he lost a piece of his life when he couldn’t play his music in public anymore, and it--he said that it was cathartic for him which--it helps him express his emotion, and he can’t do it anymore because of the craziness, and I find that completely disgusting and sad that it had to get to that point for him.

Sue: Yeah, when I read that I was like, “Oh my God, this isn’t true!” because I really was near to tear down crying you know? Because I love his music, and I think you really could notice that it means much to him, and I just couldn’t understand what--I mean, this is kind of what, as you said, he lost it. So, it’s taken by his fans and his popularity, I guess, and I can’t understand this because it’s just so

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Isabel: Well we actually removed his performances from our site, so if you’re looking for them and can’t find them, we’ve removed any of his performance videos that he had because he stated that it was private to him, and so that’s what we’re doing, is we’re respecting his wishes and saying that he--I guess he doesn’t want his performances publicized. So, that’s the reasoning behind why we did that if you couldn’t find his performances anymore.

Sue: Yeah, and I’m so glad you did because it’s such a part of--no other fans that does it. They all are posting these candid videos, or candids and stuff, and I don’t think that’s really supportive to him because he has still kind of privacy--or whatever is left of it, so. I don’t think we have to destroy it more, you know?

Isabel: No, I think that there’s always a discussion that comes up and says, well, if someone’s famous they have to give up a bit of their privacy. And I don’t always believe that that follows. I think that there can be a private and a public side to peoples’ lives and that’s what we try and do on the site, is all we post things that are on the public side of his life, things that have to do with his career because it’s none of our business who he dates, and none of our business who he goes out with, and none of our business--it’s none of our business to have pictures or videos out with his friends. I don’t know.

Joy: I like what you said, Sue, before, about how it’s the fans that are taking it away from him, and I think that’s a really good way to put it because it’s true--

Isabel: That’s such a good point.

Joy: And I think that’s another reason why we, you know, made these decisions to take down these videos and not put paparazzi pictures up, is because we really do consider ourselves fans, and how is it supportive for us to take away something that’s so important to him? Not just his music, but his privacy. How can you put a price on that? And we really do consider ourselves to be fans of him. It’s not right for us to take away these things from him because are we really fans if we’re doing that? I don’t think we are, and I think that’s something people need to think about

Tara: if you really consider yourself a fan, if you wanna support him, then listen to him. See how he’s feeling and act accordingly. You wouldn’t treat your friends like this, you wouldn’t treat your family like this, so why would you treat robert like this?

Isabel: Well, it all comes down to respect, and I wanna give people the benefit of the doubt, and I wanna say that people don’t realize the impact that we’re having and they got caught up in the moment. We’re not criticizing you as much as we can, we just want you to think abut what you’re doing first before you do it, that’s all. Just think about it.

Joy: Yeah, a little bit of awareness.

Isabel: And it’s become a big thing where even his costars in Twilight have been asked to talk about how Rob’s dealing with it. Like, with Peter Facinelli, do you wanna read that?

Joy: It’s really interesting, he says this in the LA Times interview, he said, “I feel for robert. He didn’t sign up for this knowing what it would become. The fan base has grown ever since we filmed it; there were underground fans when we started, we’d go to all their websites and they all said, “All these actors are wrong fro the roles!”” And he goes on, and he’s talking about how fickle the fandom is, which is--you know about that, as well, and then he says about Rob, “All of a sudden he’s like the James Dean of today; that’s a lot on a guy’s shoulders, but hopefully he’ll be okay. He’s kind of nerve-wracked, he doesn’t like leaving his apartment a lot, but I think it’ll be good. This’ll bring good things.” I think that’s a really valuable insight because his costars--his friends--see how Rob reacts to it. You know? And like we’ve said, when Rob talks about it he kind of tries to put a good spin on it. He’s like, “Ha ha,” and--

Isabel: Rob’s always joking about it, in a way.

Joy: Cuz he doesn’t want anyone to feel bad for him, but

Isabel: Well he doesn’t wanna be the victim because he’s not a victim, it’s just a circumstance

Joy: And when others around him start to notice that he’s nerve-wracked, that he’s having a hard time, I think that really needs to make us take notice.

Isabel: Well, we know that there are fans out there who are concerned, and we wrote two site e-mails this week concerning the fan craziness. Like, directly from the Webmisses--which we all sat down to talk about it, and we all what we wrote it down for our readers to read, and we’ve gotten a bunch of really supportive fan reactions, and thanks guys for e-mailing in to us. But, we wanna read you guys a couple of snippets as to what the fans are actually saying when they e-mail us.

Joy: Well, like you said, we’ve gotten a ton of e-mails.

Isabel: Supportive e-mails!

Joy: Just in the last week or so.

Isabel: We love you guys.

Joy: We do, we read every single e-mail that comes in, and we try to respond to each one. If you e-mailed us and didn’t get a response it doesn’t mean that we’re ignoring you--

Isabel: It just means that we’re busy.

Joy: We really are busy, I mean, we probably get between thirty and fifty e-mails a day, easily.

Isabel: Easily.

Joy: I mean, that’s not an exaggeration. So, anyway, we’ve gotten a lot of really supportive e-mails, not just about Rob, but about the site, about the decision that we made and you know, we really do appreciate it. We can’t say enough how much we appreciate it. The fans are really awesome. The fans who really care about Rob and who are dedicated to him, they’ve really shown us a lot of support in what we’re doing for him, so anyway, just to say thank you, we really do appreciate it.

Isabel: And I just wanted to say that we are nervous about reactions, too, because we’re doing it as a service for you guys and for Rob, as well, and we worry about what you guys think when we make decisions for the site, and we’re really glad and pleasantly surprised that you guys are supporting something that we really believe in, which is giving Rob some space.

Joy: Well, back to the fan reactions, like I said, a ton of e-mails have come in and I picked a few--well not a few actually, I picked quite a few--that just support our point, just from the fans, what they think about what’s going on, so I’m just gonna go ahead and read straight through them because there’s quite a few and they make some really good points. So, it’s just amazing. It makes me proud of the fandom for kind of stepping up to the plate after all this insanity. But anyway, the first e-mail was from Kerry, she said, “My heart is breaking for Rob right now. He never wanted all this fame, he had no idea how popular the books were, he’s just a laidback artist type of a guy who wanted to make a movie. When he said he was sad that he can’t play in pubs anymore that really upset me because playing his music is obviously something that’s very important to him. It’s how he expresses himself. And when he said that his first reaction to the screaming fans was to cry, that made me upset, too. I wish these fan girls would leave him alone and let him live his life.” That’ s a really good point. Jessica said, “I think the way the San Francisco Hot Topic singing was handled was completely terrible. I think that the fans acted outrageously. I mean, I love Rob but I couldn’t trample on someone who had collapsed to get to see him.

Isabel: Such a good point, too!

[Laughter]

Isabel: You pick them up, you don’t walk on them.

Joy: I know, it’s not like I’d step on your face.

[Laughter]

Joy: The next e-mail came from Naomi, and she said,, “I think people need to realize that he isn’t Edward, he’s robert Pattinson. I think people are connecting the two just a little bit too much, and obsessively, and it’s causing them to all go insane.”

[Laughter]

Joy: That is so true. Jamie said, “I seriously fear for his life and relish the fact that even though I am a die-hard fan of Rob, having seen nearly all his projects, I have enough pride and self-composure to not make a fool at his public events and follow him around the country.”

Isabel: Even better point.

[Laughter]

Joy: Tam said, “I sit watching daily at how some fans have become so excruciatingly rude and ignorant at Rob’s appearances. I cringe while wondering where their heads are. Yes, I know you can get carried away, but if you want to see and hear him, maybe you shouldn’t be so quick to make him uncomfortable. It’s not like he hasn’t said how the screaming makes him feel.”

[Laughter]

Joy: I love that one.

Sue: That one is so great!

Joy: Good for you, Tam. Crystal said, “Thank you for posting your message regarding this week’s fan frenzy. I completely agree with you. If that was me, or if I was old enough to have teenage daughter, I would be ashamed.”

Isabel: Point well taken. We are ashamed.

[Laughter]

Joy: We are. Dorothy said, “Just watching the Dallas videos, I knew exactly what Rob meant when he said it makes you wanna cry. It’s bad enough listening to it on a video. I can hardly imagine being there and having all of that directed at you. Like he said, it’s all this intense energy being pushed at you. It must be awful.”

Isabel: It is awful.

Sue: It must be.

Joy: It’s awful to watch, I can’t even imagine having to actually experience it. The last one came from Tammy, and she said, “I’ve been so distressed all week over all that’s happened with people being so out of control, and my admiration for Rob continues to skyrocket at how he’s handling it all with such grace and kindness.”

Isabel: I really, really, really enjoy that last one, as well, because it brings to light the fact that Rob knows you guys are weird and he’s still being really awesome about it. So just chill. That’s all.

Joy: Yeah. I agree. We’ll step off our Soapbox.

Isabel: We’re getting off our Soapbox and diving into a new segment that we’re officially making a segment this week, it’s called--it’s my baby-- it’s called the Tom-Sturridge-Reference-of-the-Day.

[Laughter]

Isabel: Well, it’s related to Rob, sort of.

Joy: Sort of.

Isabel: It’s always related to Rob. So, this week’s Tom-Sturridge-Reference-of the-Day is when a fan met Rob while wearing Tom Sturridge’s face on her shirt, and it completely freaked him out, and he laughed. I don’t think he freaked about it in a bad way, I think he was just really surprised and he found it really, really funny. It’s hard to explain the t-shirt it was kind of like, two hearts where her chest would be with his face on it, and it says something like, “Tom Sturridge loves you!” or something like that, and I just found it hilarious because if you put yourself in that position imagine you’re doing some sort of signing, and some girl walks up to you with your best friend’s face plastered on her t-shirt--

[Laughter]

Joy: I know, I would freak out.

Isabel: I would laugh so hard.

[Laughter]

Sue: Yeah, I guess I would lay on the floor because I’d be laughing.

Isabel: Yeah, it would be so funny.

Joy: Aw, yeah, it’s so funny.

Isabel: Okay, moving on to another segment that’s gonna be all the time--it’s not really a segment, it’s just stuff we do, we’re not that official--

[Laughter]

Joy: Yeah, we’re not that cool, sorry.

Isabel: It’s called Things That Make Us Happy, and my heart was so happy when I read this; the question is, “Are you not moving to LA, are you interested in making that leap?” It came from the Dark Horizons interview, and Rob says, “I think there’s no reason to, and also, London’s in my heart. I need it and I haven’t been there for a very long time.”

Joy: Aw!

Isabel: That is amazing. I’m really glad to hear that.

Joy: We want Rob back in London.

Isabel: Go home.

Joy: He’s so much better in London.

Isabel: He is so much better in London. And you know, he probably heard us talking on last time’s PattyCast about it.

[Laughter]

Joy: There’s less screaming in London, Rob! There’s less screaming, so go over there. We love London.

Sue: It’s so near to me!

Isabel: Well, he’ll be even closer to you when he goes home. And father away from us. It’s funny because Tara and I both live in North America, and we just want him to go away. Get out while you still can!

[Laughter]

Isabel: Okay, we have Joy’s Rob quote of the day.

[Laughter]

Isabel: It’s not my Rob quote of the day!

Joy: This is my Rob quote of the day because honestly I stuck this in here because Rob says some hilarious things. No matter what interview he’s doing. Like, he could be being interviewed about someone’s dog dying and he would still come up with something hilarious to say. And, so anyway, I read this in the Dark Horizons interview--a great interview--so this was my favorite quote of the day. The question was, “Did you have anything like that in high school?” Talking about love, and Rob said, “No. I was so anti-anyone who said they’re in love. I just thought they’re idiots.” And I was like, “Yeah, me too Rob. Me too.” What was your favorite, though? You had another favorite.

Isabel: My favorite is when Rob said that, “I can relate to a diplodocus.” Because--he talks about dinosaurs, first of all, and he has a favorite dinosaur, that’s kinda my favorite dinosaur, too. So that’s my quote.

Joy: You’re probably the only two people who have a favorite dinosaur, so there you go.

Isabel: Well, I like the long-necked one.

Joy: Next time you meet him, you can be like, “Hey Rob--

Isabel: “That’s my favorite dinosaur, too.”

[Laughter]

Isabel: We’re so meant to be!

[Laughter]

Isabel: Yeah.

[Laughter]

Isabel: Not a crazy fan.

Joy: Wow. Just, the--yeah.

Isabel: Okay, we’re getting on to closing up our PattyCast but we, as usual now--usual being this is our second time doing it--

[Laughter]

Isabel: We’re gonna do some listener e-mails, in which we ask people to e-mail us questions and we answer them. So, let’s start with Crystal.

Joy: She said, “In all the interviews I have seen, Rob seems to be very humble and it doesn’t seem like all of this attention has really changed him. Well, other than the fact that he’s terrified when he goes into a crowd that someone’s going to stab or shoot him. That’s just sad. Do you think he’ll remain humble after Twilight comes out? I think so, he seems like a really down-to-earth kind of guy. Do you think the hype and hysteria will die down eventually after Twilight is released?” I hope so, we were talking about this a couple days ago. Just saying how much we need a vacation.

Isabel: Yeah, I need a vacation from Rob.

Joy: From all of this insanity. We need a vacation, our news posters need a vacation--I really think that the Twilight hysteria will carry us through ‘til about January or February.

Isabel: And it’s gonna die down until they start filming again.

Joy: And then we’ll get like two weeks of vacation--

[Laughter]

Isabel: A reprieve.

Joy: Then we’ll be seeing filming for New Moon, or you know, Rob said that they’ll probably start filming that in February and then it’ll be craziness non-stop until the next….vacation. And then when the Twilight DVD comes out, all is lost.

[Laughter]

Isabel: All is lost.

Joy: This is gonna go on and on until Breaking Dawn is finished, of course. I mean, if they do all four movies then we’re just gonna have to say goodbye to our vacation time and---

Isabel: Did you mean say goodbye to life in general?

Joy: True story.

Isabel: Cuz we all have full time jobs. We don’t just sit around doing nothing all day. We have our regular jobs. Joy’s a teacher, I’m an administrative assistant, and we--at the end of the day, we have our second job which is the website. Well, I think what the other part of her statement or questions or whatever it is is asking us is if we think he’s gonna remain humble, and I don’t think that’s going to change. I think it’s going to take a lot for Rob to change who he is because he’s already saying things like he’s not gonna change the way he does things, or how he runs his life, what people expect of him. So I don’t think it will happen. Well, Ellen’s next.

Joy: I hope so.

Isabel: Yeah, I hope so too. I really like this one, cuz we get to talk about Rob.

Joy: Yeah, Ellen wrote in and said, “My questions are: what is your take on robert Pattinson? What do you like and love about him? What do you think about him?” You know, we don’t usually get asked this very often.

Isabel: No, no one asks us what we think about robert Pattinson.

[Laughter]

Joy: Obviously we like him, obviously we are fans or else we wouldn’t be doing what we do, but I think we all have our reasons.

Isabel: I like him--well, generally because he seems like such a--well, when I met him anyway, he’s a really nice, down-to-earth guy, and in all his interviews. That’s what everyone’s saying, he’s really humble, and I keep saying it because that’s what everyone says about him, but it’s true, I guess. You can’t really repeat the truth enough. And I really also like the fact that he’s so goofy. He’s so funny and goofy, and he sometimes doesn’t even realize he’s being goofy and it’s like the best interview ever because he said something that wasn’t supposed to be funny but is the most hilarious thing he’s ever said.

Joy: It’s true.

Isabel: it’s true! And I also really like how he’s a musician, because I think that the way that he plays the guitar is really soulful, and you can see--and you can tell that he’s really into whatever it is that he’s playing or he’s singing. So those are the things I really enjoy about Rob. I forgot to add, too, that I really have been enjoying recently--and especially in that variety interview when he says that he’s--like, he obviously is very generous and very gracious, or whatever, but he’s very real and he said that he--he basically said, “Don’t like me, I’m a dick.” And I really enjoy the fact that he’s so refreshing saying, “I’m not a nice person.”

[Laughter]

Joy: He is, he is a nice person he just doesn’t wanna admit it.

[Laughter]

Joy: Sue go ahead, what do you think about Rob?

Sue: What do I think about Rob? What I think, or what I like? I don’t know.

[Laughter]

Isabel: What you think, and you like.

Sue: Okay, he’s an absolutely amazing actor. He’s really great and I love what he does, and that’s--it’s unusually because out there, there are so many actors, you know? There are so many who just look that good, are pretty handsome, and I don’t know--that can’t really act. That’s the thing, and with Rob you have a combination, somehow. And I don’t know, it’s just--I like that. And then, as Isabel said, he’s a very down-to-earth person, and he seems to be very, very honest, very cool, very relaxed when there aren’t any screaming fans, and yeah; that’s what I really like about him, too. Because I’m almost blind, so I really like his voice, because in Germany you can’t get all of his movies with the German translation, you know? So I had to watch them in the original tone, and I was like, “Oh my God! I like that voice!” because it’s kinda you know, smoky and smooth, and I don’t know. A combination of it, and that’s pretty cool. I like listening to him, I like listening to him singing or whatever, because his voice is just so comfortable to listen to, you know?

Isabel: I agree with that.

Sue: Yeah, that’s really one big point why I like him. It’s not so that--I can see how he does look like, I mean, he’s really hot, you know?

[Laughter]

Isabel: That’s a given.

Sue: Yeah, but I don’t know, it’s just--I mean, most people out there are caring about--they are “Oh my God, he’s so hot! He’s so handsome, I wanna marry him!”

Isabel: Or his hair.

Sue: Yeah, his hair. I mean, they all are caring just about his physical appearance, and I’m like, “You don’t even know him,” So I mean, I don’t even know him, too, but--

Isabel: There’s more than a pretty face. And I think you were--

Sue: There was a German word, I’m sorry!

Isabel: It’s okay, it’s okay. I think you bring up a really good point, too, because you specifically said, “I enjoy his acting,” I forget to say that, a lot, because I’m always thinking--well obviously I enjoy his acting that’s why I’m a fan.

Sue: What I really enjoyed, I guess it was an interview by Stefanie Meyer when she said his acting in Twilight was Oscar-worthy, and I was like, “Oh my God! Really? I wanna see it!” And I don’t know, I am really excited to see that.

Joy: Alright, my turn. Wow, Rob. Where to start, right? You know, on the shallow side, the fact that he’s just beautiful, that’s obviously a factor, yeah. That’s the first thing that you notice about anyone, and that was the first thing that we saw about him, so you know, I will not lie, I just love to look at him, he’s so pretty.

[Laughter]

Joy: But I think my favorite thing about Rob is just the fact that he really seems like someone I could be friends with, you know? Like, if he was not a famous celebrity, and if we just, you know, met some way, I think that he and I would be really good friends. I think we have a very similar sense of humor. He just seems like someone I’d like to hang out with.

Isabel: Yeah.

Joy: And I feel that way when I watch interviews--you know, the ones that are more casual--I feel like I’m talking to a friend. Like, I feel like I’m there with him and I’m just sharing this funny story with him, you know? I like that, and I think that’s my favorite thing about him, is just that he seems like he would be a good friend.

Isabel: Yeah I think so, too.

Sue: That’s pretty cool

Isabel: That’s a good point, I second that.

Joy: Amber wrote in to us and said, “Rob seems so personable and honest. Many of his interviews seem off-the-cuff, almost as if he’s talking to a friend. This is so refreshing, because most interviews come off as scripted, with Rob you never know what you’re gonna get. Do you think this will change once the industry gets its claws into him? Also, he’s said before that he doesn’t mind fans approaching him on the street, but this was before the current fan craze at the malls. Do you think this will change? Will he become surrounded by paparazzi and security? Or since he’s shy, will he stay in his house all day?” That’s an excellent question. Part of me wants to be like, “Yes, Rob, go hide in your house and stay away from all the crazies,” but you know, we’d miss him. We love seeing him around.

Isabel: I think there’s gonna be a lot less access to him. There’s already a lot less access to him before the premiere anyway, and it’s already changed, so yeah, it’s going to change, I don’t think he’s gonna stay in his house all day, but I sure know he’s probably not gonna wander around without somebody who’s able to push people away just in case, you know? Like a body guard.

Joy: I agree.

Isabel: Yeah, he doesn’t seem like that kind of guy but he does have a body guard, now so yeah, things have already changed. As for his interviews, I don’t think he’s gonna stop being quirky. I think that people are gonna want to listen to those more than the serious stage interviews, and it seems like there’s a good balance of both.

Joy: Yeah, I agree, we do get some really good like in-depth serious interviews, but we also get a lot of really good fun ones which have just as much good information.

Isabel: I think you lose some when it’s always serious because you lose like the kind of person who he is. You--I don’t really know if he’s goofy or not. Last question.

Joy: this one comes from Samantha, and we’ve already talked about it a little bit but she brings up a good point, she said, “My friend and I were previously discussing if the fans of Twilight are actually in love with Rob or just the character, due to the popularity of the book. This mainly came up because she is an Edward fan, and I’m just a huge Rob fan--along with an interest in the book, as well.” I’ve said this all along, I really think that there are people who don’t know the difference between Rob and Edward, like they can’t make that distinction. It’s one thing to be excited that he’s playing your favorite character, because literally, I remember when you called me Isabel--this is what the phone conversation, was, “Rob IS EDWARD.” And I was like, “What the heck?” And it took me a couple minutes--

Isabel: Cuz I woke you up!

[Laughter]

Joy: Yeah, you woke me up at like three o’clock in the morning, you jerk. But we screamed together. We were so excited that our favorite actor was playing one of our favorite characters, but--

Isabel: No, it was a joke. I thought it was a joke because I was working.

[Laughter]

Isabel: I was working, so I was out running errands, and Tara texted me, and Tara was like, “Oh, hey robert was cast as Edward Cullen.” So I texted--Culling? Did I just say Culling?--I texted back--

[Laughter]

Isabel: I texted her back and I said, I basically said to her, “Ha ha, really funny,” I didn’t believe her. I just let it go. I didn’t check my phone until like a couple minutes later and she was like, “No! I’m being really serious, he was cast as Edward Cullen!” So, I called her and then I think I called you right after that, was in the middle of the night.

[Laughter]

Isabel: For you.

Joy: Anyway, the point was--

[Laughter]

Joy: I don’t even know what we were talking about.

Isabel: No, the point is that the people that really think he’s Edward, you know--

Sue: I had a experience like this. Or mostly like this, a friend gave me the book, but I heard it because I couldn’t read it. So yeah, and it was I guess, February or March. I can’t really remember clearly--when I went on the internet and just searched for Twilight and found out that there will be a movie because I really didn’t have any idea that there would be a movie.

Isabel: I didn’t think that anyone was interested in twilight. I thought it was a sub-culture of small groups of fans who really liked it, and there were closet-fans like me who enjoyed it, and yeah, I didn’t really realize it was a big deal, at all.

[Laughter]

Sue: Yeah, and when I found out that it was Rob, I was like, “Oh. My. God. Rob Pattinson, Okay. Robert Pattinson.”

[Laughter]

Sue: And I just thought, “Okay, wait, wait, wait, Robert Pattinson, was it really the one I saw in harry Potter four? Was it really robert Pattinson?”

[Laughter]

Sue: And I just went to my friend and said, “You know what, there will be film and she--

[gasps]--Oh my God!” And then I continued, “Well Rob Pattinson is playing Edward.” And she said, “Who the hell is robert Pattinson?” And I’m like, “Okay, you remember the guy from Harry Potter four?” She was like, “No!” “Yeah!” “No!” “Seriously!” And I don’t know, it was kinda, really cool, but we totally freaked out and it was pretty cool. So the whole point--I don’t know. I have some friends who really see robert as Edward, more than as robert, you know? As you said. And I always when I’m talking to them, you know, I’m totally freaking out when they don’t call him ‘Robert,’ they call him ‘Edward.’

Isabel: There are so many people who call him Edward.

Joy: Yeah, that’s so true.

Sue: In the Rome Film Festival, I guess a hoster always was like, “Edward, blah, blah.”

[Laughter]

Sue: You know? And I was like--

Joy: So annoying!

Sue: Yeah!

Isabel: That’s so sad.

Sue: And it’s so rude, in one way, because it isn’t Edward who sits there, it is Rob, you know?

Joy: Exactly.

Sue: And every time I hear that I could totally freak out, I could totally go, “Oh my God, it’s robert you’re talking with!” You know? And I don’t know, that’s something really--

Isabel: It bothers you doesn’t it?

Sue: Yeah. It annoys me. It’s so--ugh. You know? Blech. I guess you know what it is.

Isabel: Well, people call me wrong things all the time, like, it bothers me, too. Like, he’s all over the news and everything. We got an e-mail from NBC universal, like a big company--what do you call that? Is that a production company? I don’t know. And they’re sending us information about Rob in Twilight and some clips they have or whatever. This isn’t the first time we’ve come across this; they said his name was ‘Robert Patterson.’

[Laughter]

Isabel: This is from NBC, and like people e-mail us from these big places all the time, and they call him “Robert Patterson.” His name is Robert PATTINSON, not Patterson. I don’t’ know why, ‘er’ and ‘in’ don’t sound anything alike. Patterson, Pattinson?

Sue: Patterson, that sounds weird.

Isabel: It does sound weird. Anyway, I think that it’s time for us to say goodbye, we will not bore you anymore with our dissertation on how to say Rob’s name. So we hope you enjoyed this very rambling and special edition of the PattyCast. Sue is fantastic! Thank you for coming and being on here with us and dealing with all of our technical difficulties. Thanks again!

Sue: Thank you for giving me the chance, I really enjoyed it.

Isabel: Thank you so much. What is you site? What’s the URL? Go ahead and tell people about your website.

Sue: Yeah, I’m working on a kristenstewartweb.net and robertpattinsonweb.net.

Isabel: Okay, thanks very much for listening to us. We’ll say goodbye to Sue. We’ll talk to you later, hopefully. Maybe we can have you back on, you’ve been really awesome.

Sue: Thanks, you too!

Isabel: Thanks so much. Bye from Isabel!

Joy: Bye from Joy!

Isabel: See you guys later!

Sue: Bye from Sue!

Isabel: Bye!

Joy: Wait she didn’t really say goodbye!

[Laughter]

Isabel: Say goodbye, Sue! Say goodbye!

Sue: I did! Good-bye!

Isabel: Bye!

[Bloopers follow]