> Episode 007 "Voldypants"

Isabel: Hello and welcome to the Pattycast. I’m Isabel.

Joy: And I’m Joy.

Tara: And I’m Tara.

Isabel: And here we are again. How are you guys?

Tara: Pretty good.

Joy: Also good, little tired but that’s par for the course, but other than that I’m really good.

Isabel: Awesome. We’ll just jump into the news. We’ll start with Parts Per Billion. We found out today--or yesterday, I don’t remember--Rob’s officially off the project due to scheduling conflicts with New Moon. And his manager was the one who confirmed it with us today.

Joy: Yeah this is from Nick Frenkle, who’s Rob’s manager, and he said, “Unfortunately, the prep time and production schedule on New Moon haven’t left enough time for Robert to work on Parts Per Billion during the first quarter of this year.” I can’t say that I’m disappointed. I don’t know. Like, I think it might’ve been an interesting movie, but ever since I heard the synopsis that it was about like, a Bio-terror (Laughter) attack, you guys I was just--I can’t even stop laughing about it. It just kinda concerned me cuz that’s--I don’t know it just didn’t seem like a Rob kinda film, but who knows? But anyway, we’ve started to hear all the rumors, you know, and I don’t know, I wasn’t really getting my hopes up for the movie anymore, and so when it was officially announced I was like, “Alright, well that’s it.”

Isabel: Well, it wasn’t really a surprise, but I wasn’t really upset about it, either. I mean, he has a contract with Summit to do the next couple of films or whatever, so I guess that takes precedence on like scheduling conflicts. I’m not mad at Summit, there are lots of fans who are upset at Summit for not being flexible with Rob’s schedule, but it also--you can’t, in this type of situation, you can’t point fingers. Cuz he may have decided himself that he didn’t wanna do it. So.

Joy: That’s very true. And you know, it’s not like he’s the only actor who’s ever had this. There’s lots of people who have to drop out of films because of scheduling conflicts and that’s just the way it is. So, I don’t think that it’s necessarily Summit’s fault, but like you said, a lot of people are upset about it and saying, “Oh, Summit should be flexible, Summit should do that,” and I think in a way maybe they could’ve pushed New Moon back a little bit, but they’ve already set a release date that they want. Even though I think it’s still too soon, I would love to see them stretch out the filming to make this film really good, but this is what they’ve set. They’re spending the millions of dollars on it. If they think they can’t push back the schedule and they wanna stick with it, that’s fine. I mean, they wouldn’t be flexible for Catherine Hardwicke’s schedule, you know? They’re not gonna be flexible with Rob’s schedule. I think that’s just the way it is with a movie company like that. They’re just--they’ve gotta stick with their scheduling and you know--

Isabel: Yeah, it’s not the end of the world. He’s got so many parts that are coming out. Parts that he’s already filmed that are being released like, we’ll talk about the Summer House later and even though that’s just a short, I mean, there are tons of things he could do. I mean, just dropping a part doesn’t mean he’s gonna disappear or all he’s gonna do is Twilight. Just didn’t work with his schedule, and it’s just not anything to get really upset about.

Tara: No, and I don’t think it should really come as a surprise to us all. I mean the filming, we knew, was gonna cut into New Moon, which is in March, and the guy needs a bit of a break. So that would be kind of…I don’t think that I would be able to go from one movie to the next because you’d just be ending filming for Parts Per Billion and then jumping right into New Moon. You pretty much have no break at all.

Isabel: And he’s not just filming New Moon. Didn’t I hear them say they were filming them back-to-back and maybe simultaneously?

Joy: I remember people discussing it but I don’t remember if anything was officially said.

Tara: I know--I forgot if we received it in an e-mail or read it in an article that they wanted to, someone said that Breaking Dawn pretty much sums up the entire series, why don’t they just combine it into one? That’s something that I remember----

Isabel: Well, they’re going to franchise this as much as they can, so they’re going to have at least three movies. I mean, they’re a startup production company and they hit on gold. Twilight was actually pitched to Paramount Pictures and Paramount turned it down cuz they thought it was gonna be a dud, and so Summit struck on something and I don’t see them walking away with anything less than three movies being done.

Joy: I agree.

Tara: Oh yeah.

Isabel: Alright, moving on, Parts Per Billion wrap-up, we’re not really that upset about it and there’ll be other movies. Next on the list is Twilight news. They released the DVD release date of March 21st for the U.S. the cover art’s released. You can find it on Summit Entertainment--their website. It’s summitentinfo.com. Will there be a two-disc special edition of this?

Joy: That’s what it says on the DVD cover. It says right at the top: Two disc special edition. So I’m kind of excited about that because I’m a person who loves--I love bonus features. That’s why I buy DVD’s. Just so I can watch the bonus features cuz they’re just so interesting, and I’m excited to see like what kind of deleted scenes, what kind of behind-the-scenes things we’re gonna see for this, because I mean, I think that is really where the excitement is gonna be for fans. I mean yes you buy it to watch the movie, but we’ve seen how much people love anything that has to do with Twilight. So, they’re gonna make a lot of money off this, I can tell. Oh, and I love the cover on it. The cover looks really good.

Isabel: Yeah I love the bonus features. I mean, Goblet of Fire, I bought the DVD cuz I thought the deleted scenes would be funny. Like the whole “Meeting the Champions” thing would be funny. Like if they do something similar to that, where you get to like see them all like behind the scenes, stuff like that.

Tara: I think I’m most looking forward to not only the deleted scenes but also different like bloopers, and I remember Kristen Stewart in Comic-Con saying there was this scene they were doing-- the meadow scene. And it was just her and then Rob tripped her. And then she went on top of him and stuck her finger in his mouth. And I’m kinda…I really wanna see that sounds really, really, funny.

Isabel: Alright, moving on to New Moon news. We’ve gotten some e-mails asking about his participation or--because he’s not really in the book that much-so someone asked, actually Emily wrote in and said, “I’ve read all the books and Taylor will be the main guy for the next film. Do you think he could possibly steal that?” And when I read the books I never really saw New Moon as Jacob’s book, even though he was in it. It was obviously still Bella and Edward’s story. I guess it’s different if you’re an Edward or a Jacob fan, and I’m both. I just saw really in the end, ultimately it’s still Edward and Bella’s story. What do you guys think?

Tara: No, I agree cuz it’s like Edward’s such an ominous presence in that book, even though he’s not really in it, you know? He’s kinda just there, and Bella’s always constantly thinking of him. I think it’s gonna--once we see New Moon--that we’re gonna see, you know--I can’t wait to see the rivalry build up. And I think that’s what we’re gonna see in fans, like, we’re gonna see more Jacob fans popping up. And I don’t think it’s really gonna steal it from him but it’s gonna give him a bit of a--maybe a little bit more of a competition, I think.

Joy: I think that Jacob is not really the main character in New Moon, I think he’s kind of a place holder at first. I think that that will translate into the movie, I mean, I’m excited at seeing more of Taylor because I love him, he’s adorable.

Isabel: He is adorable, he’s so cute!

Joy: Yeah, and I think it’ll be good. I’m real glad that they’ve officially decided to keep him in the film, so I think that it’ll be great to see more of Jacob. But I don’t think they’re gonna get rid of Edward by any means, you know? And the screenwriter, Melissa Rosenberg, has talked about this, and any time she talks about writing New Moon, she mentions how, “Oh we’re gonna work Edward in somehow,” and all of these things. And she hasn’t been real specific, obviously, but it’s not like Edward’s gonna totally disappear. And he didn’t in the book, like you said, he didn’t in the book.; he was still this huge presence, and I’m sure they’re not gonna let go of this. I mean, Melissa Rosenberg is a smart person, she knows what they have in Edward--what they have in Rob--and they’re not gonna just write him out of the script. So, there’s gonna be ways to make it work.

Isabel: Well that’s what I was gonna say. People are gonna go to the movies mostly to see him anyway, not to see the love story between Bella and Jacob, or the supposed one or whatever, especially after the screaming craziness that you see because of Twilight. I mean, I think they’re gonna put him in more, if anything. What I hope is that they talk to Stephanie Meyer and she gives them a little bit of what he was doing.

Joy: Yeah, cuz I mean that would be great. That would be something that the fans would keep up. I mean, I’d go see it just for that.

Isabel: You’d go see it anyway!

Laughter

Joy: I will go see it anyway. I mean, they could like, shoot this whole movie in a barn, and I’d be like, “I wanna go see it!”

Isabel: “This is the best movie ever!”

Laughter

Joy: It is the best movie ever. I am a loyal fan girl. Don’t ever say otherwise.

Isabel: Um…I’m not going to. So Danielle wrote in, and she asked, “Do you think they’re gonna change up the promotional stuff for New Moon? Rob said in a few interviews he doesn’t feel that weird when he sees his face on merchandise because he doesn’t think it looks like him. Do you think they’ll make the artwork a little less comic-y and airbrushed?” I hope so, I think he looked too weird the first time around, but it’s the first time, right? They’re always gonna move on it, if there’s been a bunch of criticism about it and I hope they make it less airbrushed.

Tara: Oh, yeah. I agree. I mean that’s one good thing about the mistakes that we saw in Twilight is because they can improve upon that; so they’re gonna-- that’s what I’m kinda looking forward to in New Moon because I think it’s gonna be better. Because they’re gonna say, “Oh crap, we messed up on that.” And be able to go in there and fix it. So, I do think they’re gonna make it less comic-y

Isabel: And if anything, Twilight fans are not shy, so I’m sure they’ve made their opinions heard as to what they like and dislike. So, that’s all I’m gonna say about that. And more castings are supposedly being announced this week or next, what do you guys think about that? There’s an article on EW.com.

Joy: Well mainly they were talking about Taylor being Jacob, and that was just confirmed today that Taylor would be Jacob, but there are other parts that need to be cast. You know, smaller roles, and I would imagine that they’d be announcing those soon, I mean, if they’re gonna be starting the film. They’re doing all the pre-production, they need to start saying, “Hey, these people are gonna be playing these roles.” So, I’m hoping this week or next we’ll start to see a little bit more of that.

Isabel: We’re gonna be back into news craziness.

Joy: Yeah we are. We haven’t had any real strong New Moon news yet, but it’s coming. It’s definitely coming.

Isabel: Oh yeah. Soon there’ll be fans following them around again, and we’ll see pictures.

Joy: That’s for sure.

Isabel: I’m not encouraging that. That was actually sarcasm.

Joy: yes, no stalking the cast members please.

Isabel: So for the feature films, all four, we talked about this just now but do you want to see them do three other movies or two other movies? Make it a trilogy? I’d rather they make it three than four.

Tara: Yes, definitely the three. I would like to see Eclipse, I would not like to see Breaking Dawn.

Isabel: No, ugh, no.

Tara: Oh my God. I think I would gouge my eyes out during the film.

Laughter

Isabel: I wouldn’t go. Someone might have to pay for me to actually see that on film.

Tara: That’s true. Oh my God. It just--

Joy: I am ashamed you guys, just ashamed.

Laughter

Isabel: Ashamed of who?

Joy: Of you! And a little bit I’m ashamed of myself for loving it. But you know I kind of agree with you in the sense that I think Breaking Dawn would be really creepy to see on film, like--

Isabel: Think of the one scene that abhors you most, and imagine it on screen with Rob acting it. Think of it.

Joy: Oh my God. You’re insane.

Tara: I’m imagining it right now, and it’s awful.

Joy: No I mean, I agree, I think it’s a really--like I love the book, the first time I read it I was like, “What the heck is this? It’s really strange!”, but as I read it again, and again, and again, it really started to grow on me, and I really enjoy it. But I think as a movie it’s gonna be weird, you know what I’m saying? Like, there’s a lot of weird crap that goes on it that book. And as a book it’s awesome. Like, I really like it, but to see it on film I think I would be really grossed out. It’s one thing to imagine it cuz I can kinda be like, “Uhhhh, OK,” you know, not really think about it too deeply but to see it onscreen that’d be really odd.

Isabel: I’d just be embarrassed that they could do those things cuz that’s just…oh God.

Joy: I mean, it would have to be a lot of fade-to-black moments where they didn’t show anything, you know? It’d be like, “Oooh let’s play some music right here and let them think--” You know, it’s gonna be weird. So, unless they do it--I don’t know, I’m just trying to imagine how they’d do it without totally ruining the book because I do like the book, and I don’t want them to like, totally erase everything that happens in it. So, it can be a family-friendly movie cuz to tell you the truth, the fourth book is not super family-friendly. There’s a lot of weird stuff, and in the series, as a book, it fits really well and it has a great wrap-up but I think as a movie it would be really strange. So, I’m kind of curious just to see what would happen but at the same time kind of a little bit scared to see what would happen.

Isabel: I would be a little bit scared, if I were you.

Joy: Yeah, exactly. So, kind of on the other side though, if they did merge it in with Eclipse, like I don’t think they should just do Eclipse and stop there and not tell us what happens afterwards--

Isabel: No, no, no, no. I don’t think so. I think they should incorporate the story, but I think they shouldn’t…incorporate the story, if you know what I’m saying.

Joy: Right, because to tell you the truth, and this is, you know, like a spoiler warning, don’t listen for the next couple of minutes.

Isabel: Skip ahead!

Joy: To what I’m gonna say, but to tell you the truth, there’s not a whole lot that happens in Breaking Dawn that could be cut back into a small amount of time, you know?

Isabel: Yeah, it dragged on. The whole meadow scene I was like, really? Can you kill somebody already?

Joy: I know, you’ve got the wedding, you’ve got the pregnancy, you’ve got the changing of Bella into a vampire--and then you have that whole 300 pages of their weird encounter with the Volturi, that can all be cut down easily.

Isabel: Into five minutes or so.

Joy: Well, at least ten. Come on, give them ten. But seriously, I mean if they do it well-- and I think Melissa Rosenberg did a great job with the first one, that gives me the confidence that she’ll be able to handle taking the conflict in Breaking Dawn, you know, the wedding, the pregnancy, the changing-- whatever, and merging it into Eclipse. And to tell you the truth, they could even cut out the whole third book of Breaking Dawn, you know that part with the Volturi. I mean, it’s interesting, some people may argue it’s kind of boring cuz it did kind of drag and in the books it works but in the movie it’s kind of not necessary. Like they could easily make the big conflict be with Victoria, and the whole thing and kind of do like an epilogue. “They get married and Bella get’s changed and they have a baby and...we’re done.” I think that would be fine. I try not to be super picky but I think in this case I’d be fine with them just taking the main plot points and working them into the third movie, instead of stretching it out into a fourth. Because that would be one weird movie. And we’re gonna get hate mail about this but that’s ok.

Isabel: Hey keep it coming.

Joy: We love the hate mail, we love the hate mail. We like the nice mail even more. Hint, Hint. Sending us free things--

Isabel: Yeah, we do. But if you send us hate mail it’s your opinion, that’s cool…we might make fun of you….

Joy: We never make fun of anybody. What are you talking about?

Isabel: Right. Moving on to Little Ashes. There was a lot of expectations from the press. One quote that stuck out from MTV: “Advanced buzz is building soon enough the world will know if R-pattz is truly a wunderkind or a one hit wonder.” I don’t see the anticipation too much, I guess cuz we’ve known about this movie for a long time. I guess this is anticipation for people who are just becoming Rob fans.

Joy: Well that’s exactly it you know, like MTV and other big news sources have picked this up, and because it is so different from Twilight and even from the other roles that Rob has done-- I mean he’s done some great weird roles I guess, but this is gonna be a really, really, big jump from what he’s done before, and I think people are thinking, like that quote says, the impression that I got from it is this movie is gonna make or break him, and I don’t think that’s true.

Isabel: Which is ridiculous.

Joy: But I think people are expecting that if Rob doesn’t do an awesome job in Little Ashes, then we’re gonna jump ship.

Isabel: But what they have to remember, too, is that this movie was filmed way before he was even announced as Edward.

Joy: Exactly, and that’s what I’m worried about. I’m worried that if people don’t like it--and I can’t imagine that they won’t, it looks amazing--but if it gets bad reviews for whatever reason, I’m just afraid that people are gonna be like, “Oh, he’s just a one-hit-wonder like it says here! Twilight is all he’s done.” But I think that they really need to look at his work as a whole cuz he’s done some amazing stuff. I mean, even as a huge Twilight fan, Twilight is not the best thing that he’s done, I’m sorry.

Isabel: No, not at all.

Tara: No.

Joy: I think he did a great job but I think there are other roles that he’s done that are even better.

Isabel: Even just the snippets of How to Be that I’ve seen, like he’s changed so much since like the first couple movies that he’s done.

Joy: Exactly. And he’s different in every role and I think that’s what’s so awesome about this. Little Ashes is gonna be so different, and I forget who it was, but somebody e-mailed us in this weekend, and what they said was really true, that Rob takes on impossible roles and then he just does incredible things with them and I think that’s true. I mean, Salvador Dali is not an easy role by any means. I mean, no one would have an easy time but even what we’ve seen from just the trailer and the few short clips, this is a really difficult role, and I think he’s gonna do amazing things with it.

Isabel: Well that’s--I was really worried because I didn’t want it to be one of those things where people are like, “Well he tried and it was really a flop.” But after watching the extended trailer, or the full trailer, rather, and seeing the little snippets like you said, even his accent kind of makes me do a double take. I think that he’s completely transformed in this, and I don’t even recognize him in some shots, to be honest. I had to watch the trailer a couple times to actually I guess absorb it all.

Joy: I really hope that they do more promotion with this. I mean, I realize it’s a little Indie film and we’ve seen promotion on the internet, nothing to the scale of Twilight and I’m not expecting that, but I wanna see them doing TV spots and running the trailer before other movies. I don’t want it to just be like, ten people are gonna go see this movie cuz I think it’s gonna be amazing.

Isabel: I think there’s a lot of fans who are gonna wanna see it.

Joy: And it is rated R, there is a lot of content that’s not suitable for children ,and a lot of Rob’s fans are in that under-18-can’t-see-an-R-rated-movie age range, you know? And that’s gonna considerably cut down on people who could see this movie.

Isabel: But I still think he’s got a big fan base of older fans.

Tara: Oh I agree.

Isabel: Because just looking at the demographics that we pull from our site, our age range stems from about 12 to above 50, so we get a really wide age range, and that’s a lot of people who fit in this bracket. So, I still think that there are a lot of people who’re gonna see it but we--like people who have kids who are fans as well, this might not be an appropriate film for them.

Joy: Well that’s very true, and like I said, I don’t expect it to be hyped up to the level of Twilight. I mean, that’s just unreasonable, and I really don’t think I’d want it to be that much.

Isabel: I wouldn’t either.

Joy: But I think that this film would really be great, and even if someone’s like, “Well, I’m not sure if I really wanna see it or not.” I think they should because just from the trailer, I mean I’ve watched the trailer several times, and every time I watch it like, my jaw just drops. It looks so beautifully done. It looks like such a powerful story. So, I’m hoping that they’ll spread the trailer around. They’ll you know, get some more television time, you know what I mean? Because I think that this move could be really great if they would just get a good amount of promotion. I mean, the fact that they’re gonna be releasing it in theaters is great. I mean, I’m glad it’s not just at film festivals anymore, but I really hope that they capitalize on what they have with Rob. I mean, he’s a phenomenon right now, and they need to capitalize on that definitely.

Isabel: I also think, like I get this impression that a lot of his management---or maybe just the people who handle him in L.A.--are very Twilight-centered, so the promotion is really centered towards anything that comes out of Summit. So, I think that’s one of the reasons why a lot of--there’s not that much press about his other movies. Other than on the internet.

Joy: I understand that. I hope that they don’t let this movie go by the wayside, you know? Because I think it’s gonna be really good. I’m excited to see it.

Isabel: Yeah, I’m really excited. Especially after watching the trailer a couple of times to see what’s actually going on behind every scene that they show. I’m really excited for this movie, too. So, moving on to other movies that are going to be released in 2009, this year, the Summer House; this is another movie that he did ages ago. He did this I think not right after but, I mean--

Tara: 2007, I think. I mean, it’s been a while.

Isabel: Yeah. It’s been a long time. There’s a three minute clip, you can see it in our media archive, it’s not a new clip. It was originally released last summer. And--do you wanna read about the character info, just in case people don’t really know about what the Summer House is, Joy?

Joy: Basically, the movie is about a girl, named Jane, who leaves Rob’s character, Richard--who’s her boyfriend--she leaves him behind and then goes off to France. And he tries to follow her with letters and eventually shows up there to try to convince her to take him back and everything, but this is what the character info says, and this is directly from their official website, thesummerhousefilm.com, it says: “Richard is just eighteen. He is a good looking boy, with an ambivalent feminine side, skinny and androgynous in the fashion of that time. He is narcissistic and entirely self regarding, his is a solipsistic universe with only one golden person inhabiting it; himself. Jane was the trophy girlfriend until he found better, then he was in turn dumped and now is back trying to ingratiate himself with Jane. He has written letters to the chateau, decorated the envelopes with psychedelic love hearts. He sees himself as a lover, as a pop figure, something of a curious cross between Bob Dylan and Mick Jagger. He is the kind of boy who will hang around looking pitiful and hoping his moodiness will attract girls, which it does. If thwarted he will turn nasty in an instant, and does. He wants Jane to feel sorry for him for making the mistake of giving her up. He is desperate for her, but he is the wrong boy, he is an 'unsuitable boy'.” Yeah. What do you guys think?

Isabel: I’m excited for this. It’s just a short film, but I kinda hope that they expand it into maybe a bigger one. I really like this story and we got an e-mail asking how Rob will do in a sort of villain role, and he’s really not a villain here but he’s not the hero character that we usually know in movies that he’s done. So, I’m really excited about this. He’s not supposed to be likeable.

Tara: That’s what I like about this. He’s always the good boy, and in this he’s sort of sort of the bad boy, you know? The boy that you don’t wanna bring home to your mom or dad and, as you guys know, I’ve been following this movie forever. And actually for those of you who’re listening to the Pattycast that don’t know, I met the film producer, Anna McDonald, in London last year, and she had lots of wonderful things to say about Rob and how cool and collected he was. One thing she said was that he’s just so flamboyant off-set, you know? He talks with the crew and the cast and fans but when he gets into the role, he just gets right into it, he doesn’t fool around. But there was so much work put into this film and I was able to see how some of it was put together and it was really, really interesting and really neat to see. And I’m really excited about it, not only because I got to see a little bit behind-the-scenes, how it was put together and how it was done, but also because it’s just so different. Again, he’s going for something that’s just so unique ,and I’m really excited to see him play a kind of rough-around-the-edges guy.

Isabel: Yeah, I agree. I wanted to see him play a character who’s not supposed to be likeable, and see how he plays it that way; cuz he’s obviously played characters who were like, even in like The Bad Mother’s Handbook or the Haunted Airman, that was really creepy. You watch him and he’s totally just like a hero in the movie, sort of. The movie isn’t really what it was like in the book ,but yeah that’s one thing I’m really looking forward to, is seeing how he tackles that side of being a different character.

Joy: I think my only concern with this is how short it is. It’s technically a short film. It’s twelve minutes but they’ve got so much information on the website--which is great, I mean, they’ve done a great job with their website--but I’m thinking there’s so much more with these characters. And the plot line is actually kind of complex in parts. Like there’s all these different relationships between the characters that are, you know, not just brother-sister but actually plotlines and everything between them, and I’m thinking, “How are they gonna get this into twelve minutes?” So I’m really curious about this, but like you said, I kind of wish they would stretch it out and make it a longer movie. It kind of has been a film for many years now, so we’ve been waiting and waiting for it to come out, so it’s not like they’re gonna go back and add more, but I kinda wish they could because twelve minutes is not a lot of time.

Isabel: No and it’s such a complicated plot. I want to see a whole movie based on it. Not just a short film.

Joy: Exactly, and that’s not to say that they couldn’t in the future. I mean, there have been lots of times where shorts films have later been turned into full length features, and so if this gets received well that’s a possibility. And I don’t know if they’re working toward this but, yeah, we are gonna get to see it in April. Hopefully that will stick. We don’t have an official date--like a day of the week or anything--but April 2009 is the goal, so that’s good because we have been waiting for this film for a long time, and I kinda think people have forgotten about it, but it’ll be interesting. I wanna see it.

Isabel: Well, we have no new news for How to Be so that’s that. We’ve gotten a lot of requests, and a lot of people mentioned that they want to hear more of Rob’s music. We’re not gonna play his full song, but we will starting from this recording playing clips from one song or another until, obviously, we run out of songs to do. But the featured song today is “Stray Dog” it’s written by Rob, and you can find the lyrics in our music archive.

[Stray Dog Plays]

Isabel: I dunno, I really like this one because it’s one of his like, really more soulful songs, I think, and I really like how you can hear the raw emotion in his voice. What do you guys think?

Tara: Yeah, I agree. That’s one of the things I admire about him, is that it’s--I thought that he would sound and write music that is totally different but like you said, he writes music and he sings it so soulfully and so passionately. So, I really like this one and despite--I know the lyrics, you know, like you don’t know really the story behind them, but they’re really interesting.

Isabel: Cuz like you said, we read the lyrics--or listened to the lyrics--and I think you could apply it to many situations, even if you don’t know the facts about what it’s about. So, it’s really interesting, like I said. So take a look at it. Do you guys have any favorite lyrics you’d like to talk about? I like: “See the signs stop wasting time selling the same damn story.” I mean, you come across people like that a lot in your life, who are just trying to sell you full of s*** all the time but I dunno, those lyrics kind of resonate. I like that.

Joy: Yeah I think the lyrics are really intriguing. I won’t pretend that I know what they’re about because there’s parts where I’m just like, “What are you talking about?” But I think that’s just part of the charm of Rob’s song, you know? I like that this one is written by him. This is one of his songs and to tell you the truth, when I first listened to it, the thing that pulled me in first was not even the lyrics but just his voice and I think this is a great song where we can really hear the quality of his voice. I mean, we’re really lucky to have a good version of this song cuz some of the versions we have are kind of scratchy and, you know, sound like they’re in a tunnel but this one’s actually really clear and I loved hearing his voice, and the melody on this song is real simple but it kinda pulls you in. I won’t say it’s like catchy cuz it’s not like a pop song, really--

Isabel: No.

Joy: But, you know what I mean? Like it kind of sticks with you.

Tara: Oh, yeah.

Joy: So that’s what I thought before I even thought about the lyrics, but I do really like the lyrics. I like the lines you read about “stop wasting time” It’s just kind of an interesting perspective. I mean, he’s obviously not talking about a stray dog--although maybe he is. It is Rob. But he could actually have seen a stray dog and just decided to write a song about it, but I think that he’s really soulful. Like we’ve said before and I think he doesn’t just write lyrics to be popular.

Isabel: No, but he never does anything to be popular. That’s kinda part of his charm.

Joy: Exactly. So I really like the lyrics and I’d like to kind of look at them even more. I like to look at lyrics and listen to the song at the same time you know kinda--

Isabel: I do that when I listen to new music once in a while. Like, I like to actually read the lyrics first or while I’m listening.

Joy: The only request I have to make is that Rob needs to enunciate because sometimes I can’t understand a word that he’s saying.

[Laughter]

Isabel: That’s true.

Joy: So, Rob if you’re listening to this, start pronouncing your words correctly! No I mean I think that’s part of the style but there are some times when I’m like, “What? Crazy forks are in the sky?” Like, “What are you saying?”

[Laughter]

Joy: And that kind of bugs me but I try not to focus on it just cuz that’s me being a *** but, you know, it makes me laugh. I just want him to enunciate cuz I wanna hear all of the great lyrics that he’s got in there, and even the ones that we have up on the site may not be 100 percent correct.

Isabel: So, that’s our new news segment. Sort of. We played some of his music, discussed it, we’re gonna do it again next week, tell us what you think. admin.pattinsononline@gmail.com Moving on, next is our Tom-Sturridge-Reference-of-the-Day. It’s just so entertaining, you know, it’s “Rob Rob Rob Rob Rob,” and then we go, “Tom Tom Tom,” and then we go, “Rob Rob Rob,” again. It’s a really nice like, break, in the Rob. So this week, like I said, everyone’s on vacation, there’s really not new news or anything. So, I like trolling the IMDB boards, and I came across a discussion which I think merits some time and thought. So, TomAsVoldemort says, “I heart James McAvoy.”

[Laughter]

Joy: I love this already.

Isabel: Let me collect myself, I’m sorry.

Joy: TomAsVoldemort. I mean, that’s quality right there you guys. That takes a lot of forethought.

Isabel: So, IHeartJamesMcAvoy says, “I thought he would be perfect as a young Tom Riddle, what do you think? Alas, I think it is not to be though, they have found some other rubbish unknown. Shame. I think it would’ve been great.” What do you guys think, serious discussion about Tom playing Voldemort.

Tara: Seriously?

Isabel: I think it would be a great like, coming together of things because really Tom Riddle is Voldemort, which means he killed Rob/Cedric and there you go.

Tara: Oh my God, that’s perfect.

Isabel: Tthat’s right. So serious discussion, go.

Joy: I think it could happen. I think it would be great. I mean, I won’t deny it Tom Sturridge could totally pull off that like, creepy Voldemort---

Isabel: He did! Have you seen Like Minds?

Joy: Oh my gosh that movie is so creepy! It scared me, it did. I had nightmares.

Isabel: Talk about villains, he was really creepy in that movie

Tara: Yeah, and like, Toom Riddle when he was young and didn’t have like, snake face, he was hot.

Isabel: Yeah Tom Riddle was good looking.

Joy: Exactly, well let’s get Tom, we’ll right him a letter we’ll say, “Tom we want you to be Voldemort.”

Isabel: Okay, so all you people out there who like to do petitions maybe you should start a “Tom as Voldemort” petition and see how far that goes, and link us to it. I dunno.

Joy: Oh yeah. We’ll totally sign that. We’re on top of that one.

Isabel: I really want a pin or something so Tara maybe you could get on a sticker in our shop, I vote that we have a sticker that says, “Tom for Voldypants.”

Joy: Voldypants?

Isabel: I want one. I’ll put it on my bag. “Tom for Voldypants.”

Isabel: So get two, maybe one, and we’ll put it in our store. Yeah, and that ends this week’s Tom-Sturridge-Reference-of-the-Day. You know what? We should have intro and outro music for Tom-Sturridge-Reference-of-the-Day.

Joy: I’ll totally work on that. You guys send me some and I’ll stick it in there I promise.

Isabel: Okay, moving on to Rob-Quotes-of-the-Day, Joy, I give you the floor.

Joy: Yeah I’ve got sosme cute ones this week, as always, I mean, Rob’s just hilarious even when he doesn’t try so I picked out some amusing ones just from this week. The first one, says, “If somebody asked me out on a date, I’d go out with them, but I get asked. And I never know how to ask other people. I’m not good at the whole dinner thing, I’m a bit of a loner.”

[Laughter]

Isabel: I can see him like, eating his Chef Boyardee alone because --

Joy: It’s like, “Nobody ever asks me to do anything!” But you know now he’s gonna get mail with girls saying, “Go out with me, Rob!” Because he says he never gets asked--

Isabel: Yeah and then the next one says, the next article--

Joy: And we’re gonna get emails. You know it’s so true. We’re gonna get email from the people who think that we are Rob and they’re gonna ask us out, and we’re gonna have to say no, and it’s gonna be very sad.

Isabel: Anyway, the next quote is, he says he’s boring. He stays home and all he does is watch a lot of TV and eat a lot of fast food. “That’s really exciting, isn’t it?” So I read these quotes and part of me thinks that he just says this stuff…

Joy: Oh, he totally does you know it and I think he’s right. In a certain sense I think he does stay at home and you know, be a loner, but I don’t think he’s quite the hermit that he wants to be painted as.

Tara: No.

Isabel: No I think he totally exaggerate it. I think, like you said, he does probably spend copious amounts of time alone, or with people that he’s grown up with, or things like that, but I don’t think he sits alone at home eating Hot Pockets and Chef Boyardee at night, so don’t email us about that.

Joy: He’s gonna start getting Hot Pockets in the mail.

Isabel: And the last Rob quote of the day?

Joy: The last one was a response to the question, “How do you cope with fame?” And he said, “I don’t really cope with it. I mean, I guess I’ve stopped. I just try to avoid places where I get photographed. I don’t like getting my photoo taken which is probably not a great thing if you’re going to be an actor. Um, yeah. I’m still nervous about going to events. I don’t really do much, I just continue to freka out.” I think that’s probably true. I don’t think there’s much exaggeration for that one.

Isabel: I bet you he has a mini panic attack every time he’s had to do a public appearance for the last six months of his life.

Joy: I would, seriously.

Isabel: Ever since Comic-con, I would too.

Joy: Yeah, Comic-con is enough to freak anybody out.

Isabel: Alright, moving on to listener e-mails. We’ve got a ton of listener e-mails this week, so let’s start with fan reactions to last week’s discussions. If you guys didn’t know, we talked about where to draw the lline between being a supporter of Rob and becoming like a complete fanatic and not in a good way, so these are reactions to that discussion we had last week. First e-mail’s from Rachel, she says: “Most people cannot tell the difference between being a cold, hard fan or a weirdo. Especially the ones who say those god-awful names from that dictionary. See, my mom died about five years back and she said something that would really put some perspective on that subject, she said, “If you can’t tell a complete stranger about what you’re doing or how you’re feeling, you shouldn’t be doing it or feeling it.” I thought that that was a good quote for this particular subject. I keep that quote in mind every time I get a new magazine or get one of his songs.” That’s actually good advice. If you don’t know somebody and you’re thinking weird thoughts about them, maybe you should stop.

Joy: I’m gonna tell you the truth, some of these people would probably not have any reservations about saying what they feel like to total strangers.

Isabel: Well, that’s true, too. There’s a lot of people out there who don’t have either shame or common sense. Or either. So. Yeah.

Joy: Yeah not a good combination

Isabel: No, not a good combination. The next e-mail is from Ellen she says, “It’s not fandom anymore, it’s obsession now, it’s stalkerism, it’s not cool. People, girls, they’re embarrassing our gender, are being completely stupid. Mobbing someone outside their house and threatening suicide is not on.” I fully agree with that , obviously. That’s just a given. Next is Juh-Nye-ah she says, “I do feel bad for celebrities like Rob who’re disturbed, and it’ s a complicated issue, the whole line between fan and stalker. Just today I thought about the fact that I wished I could meet him. I mean who doesn’t? But I think he’s so talented that it would be a real privilege to know him, but of course I don’t. It’s hard to know the line and control yourself as a fan, but the things you said really made me sure that the way to be a true fan is to be inspired and appreciate his hard work but not go over the line.” It’s really great to hear that because that’s sort of the message we wanted to leave everyone with with last week’s discussion, and it’s great to know that it’s actually been heard and understood by a lot of fans out there.

Joy: Yeah, we got a lot of really encouraging emails about this, you know? Just people really appreciative of the discussion, and that’s our goal. Is to kinda make people think. That’s good. The next one is from Crystal, and she said that she recently had the chance to meet Rob, but he was surrounded by a bunch of paparazzi and looked kind of uncomfortable so she decided not to approach him, and so she says: “Sometimes when I tell this story to someone who’s a Rob fan they ask me, “What are you crazy? Why didn’t you meet him?” I do ask myself the same thing some of the time, but I’m kind of glad I didn’t meet him under those circumstances. A promotional event with fans and the media is one thing, but I think everyone, even celebrities, deserve their privacy when they’re out in public. Especially when they’re there to see their favorite musician. Some people say a celebrity should just get used to it, and that’s part of the job. If the fans would stop going to the paparazzi sites then there would no longer be a need for them.” I think that’s so true. I mean, really the paparazzi take the pictures because they know people will look at them. And that’s not to say that we can completely stop it but if there’s not a need for them, then they’ll go elsewhere.

Tara: I totally agree with her, and I woulda done the same thing. I don’t think that she’s crazy for not approaching him while there was a swarm of paparazzi around him, and so she’s, you know, not crazy. I could totally understand why she didn’t do that. In fact if I saw him, I wouldn’t go up to him either so…

Isabel: Well, that’s the thing. There’s appropriate times, and I totally agree with that. It’s inappropriate, I think, to go up--especially to go up to an actor like, while they’re having dinner--and saying, “Oh, can I have a photo? Or can I have an autograph?” And then, yeah, that’s sad that the actor’s all of a sudden outraged, like you’re interrupting their private time basically, or you know, their dinner so I think there’s a ---Joy: Well, if you think about it, how would you feel? I mean, is that really the way you want Rob to remember you? As That-Crazy-Person-Who-Interrupted-Me or Who-Stalked-Me-With-a-Camera? I mean, is that really the impression you wanna leave on him? And I think she’s right: it’s one thing if it’s an event to meet with fans and you know, I don’t think it’s wrong if you happen to see him walking down the street to politely ask for an autograph, I’m okay with that, but I think following him around with a camera and interrupting him when he’s with friends or whatever, you know, I just--it’s just distasteful and inappropriate, and I think that if the roles were reversed and people were doing that to me I would just be like, “Can you not leave me alone for ten minutes?” You know, “I can’t even leave my house without being mobbed.” And if you think about that you know, I wouldn’t wanna leave that impression on anyone. That I’m just the kind of person who’ll do anything to get what I want.

Isabel: And who doesn’t respect anybody else’s privacy or even their personal space, basically.

Joy: Well, the last e-mail that was about the subject was from Natalie and she said, “I very much agree with what all three of you have to say in regards to Rob’s personal life. I visited a few different fan websites, and I have found that while many sites do not encourage fans’ prying into personal information about Rob, they continue to post candid photos and videos without an ounce of judgment. I’m grateful that not only do you ask the fans to have some discretion but you act in a way that is consistent with what you expect from others. You make a very important distinction between Rob fanatics and Rob supporters.” That was really encouraging cuz that’s something that we’ve really worked on, and of course we’ve talked about this at length but we really do try to be consistent with what we say and what we do. So, yeah we appreciate that it’s being noticed and that people are on our side.

Isabel: Yeah, that’s fantastic.

Isabel: So, we’ve received many other e-mails. Before we record Pattycasts, if this is your first one, we ask people on the site to email us with questions or things they want us to talk about, and usually towards the end of our recording we talk about listener e-mails. So, we start off tonight with Danielle and she said, “Whenever the paparazzi gets word that Rob is going to be back in the U.S., do you think that they’re going to be all over him again at airports restaurants, etc. or do you think they’ve calmed down?” I personally think it’s going to be the same or worse because of Rob’s new news with all of his projects being released and whatnot. I think it’s going to be just the same because nobody’s seen him for a long time so they’re going to basically literally jump at whatever new photos are going to arise, and I don’t--that’s just in LA. It’s funny how when he goes home to London you don’t see anything. No news. He’s not really in the tabloids out there, but as soon as he sets foot in LA there’s pictures of him everywhere.

Tara: I know, it’s unbelievable. It’s kinda sad. I’m kind of ashamed to say living in the US that when he comes here he’s gonna be mobbed by a ton of paparazzi, a ton of gross tabloids, and gossip magazines, and when he goes back to London it’s such a huge weight off of his shoulders. It must be because they’re, you know, he’s--as Isabel pointed out--we’ve not seen any paparazzi photos, not an ounce of rubbish posted about him, so it’s pretty sad that when he comes back to the states he’s gonna be mobbed again.

Isabel: Yeah, it is kind of sad. Embarrassing, really.

Joy: I hope that they’re gonna get some good security on the New Moon set because seriously, they’re going to be stalking him like crazy.

Isabel: Yeah and they thought the people following them around were crazy when they were filming Twilight, and it’s only gonna get worse. And I don’t think they’re going to get as many photos with the cast as there were for the filming of Twilight, for sure.

Joy: Yeah, I think there’ll be less set visits and things, which is sad because I do enjoy that. I like that kind of behind-the-scenes kind of thing and, you know? Catherine, when she was on the set and even Rob and Kristen and the other actors they were always really welcoming of people who visited, and I like that cuz you don’t get that on a lot of movie sets. So, I hope that it doesn’t diminish too much, but I have a feeling that it will just because of the craziness, because of the stalkers who are out there, you know?

Isabel: Cuz you’ve amplified the amount of people who are actually fans, and that just means the amount of crazy people you have just skyrocketed.

Joy: Exactly, I mean they’re gonna have to have security just on their hotel rooms and things like that. I mean, Kellan Lutz, who’s Emmet, was saying that girls were coming to his room. His hotel room. And that’s scary, and you know, he laughed about it, and I’m thinking, what if one of them actually was crazy, you know? Like mentally disturbed? So that’s not okay. I’m hoping that whoever’s in charge will take care of the security. That does make me a little nervous, but as far as paparazzi goes, I think it’ll be the same. I don’t think it’ll be diminished; if anything, I think it’ll be worse because of all the hype now that Twilight’s such a big hit. All these magazines and whatever are seeing, “Hey! We can sell issues by throwing a picture of Rob looking at a girl and, oh! people will buy it,” you know? Heaven forbid that Rob looks at anyone. So they’re gonna sell magazines that way.

Isabel: Other e-mails. Crystal says: “Lately I’ve been hearing about how Rob will never make it in Hollywood; that Twilight movies will be his only major deal. What do you think about this? I mean, I know us fans love him no matter how far he gets because he’s such a great actor. What do you guys think about the fact that not many people have a lot of faith in him. If he doesn’t really make it with the whole Hollywood thing, do you think he’ll make it in music?” Actually, I don’t think I’d say I’d stick by him no matter what. Like, if he started seriously making bad choices I don’t agree with, I wouldn’t stick by him. Not that he is. Just saying. But I don’t think music--he’s said before that music isn’t his focus. I don’t think he even wants to do it as a career. I think he just enjoys playing music, and it was an outlet for him to express himself. What do you guys think?

Tara: Yeah I totally agree with you. I don’t think--this is my intuition talking right now--but I don’t think he’s gonna make crappy choices in his career cuz so far I really think he’s gonna--even after Twilight, he’s gonna fair really well because he hasn’t made stupid choices in the past, and I don’t think he’s gonna make them.

Isabel: No, I don’t either. I just said that because people think that people are gonna be fans forever just because just because we like him--

Joy: I mean, if Rob decides to be a porn star I’ll be like, “See ya later, sorry I don’t agree with that,” but I think you’re right, though. I think he is making good choices, and you know what? If he doesn’t make it in Hollywood it’s not the end of the world you know? So maybe he decides to make an Indie film once in a while, and he decides not to make acting a big deal. To tell you the truth, he’s probably made enough money that he doesn’t need to worry about it. I mean, he could probably retire right now and be fine, but I’d much rather that he be happy with his choices instead of like, being a Hollywood movie machine and popping out a blockbuster every year, I mean, who cares?

Isabel: No, I’d rather see him do small, quality roles than blockbusters, anyway. So, I--

Joy: There are plenty of amazing actors who’ve never won an Oscar. Who cares? You know? That these big famous people--not everyone has to be a Brad Pitt, or a Meryl Streep, or any of these, just to be successful. It doesn’t mean that every movie that you make has to be a hit, you know? And as long as he’s happy with the choices that he’s making, I think that’s successful, and you know, I think that any fan would agree that that’s what we want for him. We want him to be successful. Not just in Hollywood’s eyes, but in his own. Yes, you know, we want him to be satisfied with what he’s doing, and I’d love for him to continue with his music, but like you said, I don’t think that’s really his plan. I know he says music is his back up plan, but I don’t know that it really is. Okay, well moving right along. The next email comes from Nicki, and she said, “How do you think Robert’s involvement is going to react with his other acting choices? Do you think he will forever be pigeon-holed into Edward-characters, or do you think he can still break out of that mold, and embrace other roles. Will studios actively seek him for those different off-the-cuff characters?” That’s a really good question, and I think that there’s the danger of that. I mean, like we’ve seen that with Harry Potter for example, you know, it’s hard to break out of that if you’re known as one really memorable character, but it’s not impossible. It’s definitely not impossible, and I don’t think that, you know, it necessarily will require Rob acting naked on Broadway. I don’t think so.

Isabel: No, but I don’t think it can happen, to be honest. Like, I know there is a danger of it happening, but if you look at his complete filmography, I don’t think at this point in time they can say that he’s gonna be pigeonholed into Edward characters when he’s played already quite a range of different characters.

[General Agreement]

It’s not like Daniel Radcliffe, who started as Harry Potter when he was eleven. Like, he’s been doing continuously different roles before Edward, and I think he’ll do them afterward, too.

Joy: Exactly. I mean, and there are plenty of really well-known actors who are more well-known for one role. For example, when I think of matt Damon I think of the Borne movies, but that doesn’t mean that like that’s the only thing I ever see him as. I’ve seen a lot of his movies, and each one of them is very different. So, I think if all of Rob’s roles were exactly the same, like for example, if he always played the sidekick, or if he always played the nerdy guy, or whatever, then that would be different---

Isabel: Or like being like Jason Statham; like, if you always play the bad a** with the guns flying backwards in the movies, then maybe you are gonna be pigeonholed.

Joy: Exactly, and I don’t think that one role as Edward is going-- I mean yes it’s a good role, it’s a big role, it’s a memorable role, but I don’t think it’s like be-all and end-all. He’s already set up a lot of different off- the-cuff characters as you said, so I don’t think he’s gonna be pigeonholed, but when we read articles they’re gonna be like, “Oh, you know, Rob who played Edward in Twilight.” And we’re gonna see that, and that’s not gonna disappear, but I don’t think that it’s gonna be you know necessarily a bad thing for him. I think it’ll be for those people who go, “Oh, that’s where I’ve seen him.” People like my mother, who doesn’t know any celebrities, will be like, “Where did I see him? Oh in twilight.” But it’s not gonna be like, “Oh, that’s who he is.” You know what I mean?

Isabel: No, it’s definitely not.

Joy: Okay, the next email comes from Monica, and her question is, “I’m sure people have asked you this question before, but I was wondering what your personal reaction was to the amount of news and gossip surrounding Rob’s haircut. I have seen articles from almost every American media; those of which include prestigious newspapers like the Chicago Tribune and New York Times. As much as I love seeing and reading news about Rob, I have to wonder what is so newsworthy about his haircut? I forget which article it was, but I remember reading something like, “Rob’s haircut was a travesty because his hair is an iconic symbol” I’m sorry, but I really find that ridiculous. It’s just hair for crying out loud. It’s really amazing that society has become so engrossed in following celebrities that one haircut can cause such hype and commotion. It makes me wonder if Rob will be able to cope with that because basically the rest of his life will be spent under a microscope and analyzed by people all over the world who do not really know him other than through the press and media. To have literally everyone give an opinion about every action and decision he makes must be really overwhelming.” I think she’s got a great point. And you know we’ve talked about it just among ourselves.

Isabel: And it’s ridiculous.

Joy: It’s hair. Who cares?

Isabel: Who cares? I just think it’s so vapid to think that like our---ugh, it just mirrors the state our country is in where the Chicago Tribune and New York Times are talking about Rob’s haircut. I mean seriously, who cares? There are much more important things to talk about other than Rob’s haircut, and I feel really sick that there’s been such time and energy devoted to how someone cut his hair, and I dunno, I even feel like me talking about it is being hypocritical. But it’s just ridiculous. Like, get over it.

Joy: It is ridiculous. Who cares? Like no one else in the world has ever cut their hair before? I mean, let it go people. Seriously.

Tara: Really.

Joy: Well, people were comparing it to when Keri Russell cut her hair and then the show Felicity like went downhill, and it was a travesty, and I’m like, “Who cares?” I’m sorry, but people should be able to cut their own *** hair. I’m sorry.

Tara: Articles were popping up after he cut his hair, our news pages flooded---literally flooded--with articles concerning his hair, and devoted to his hair, and it’s just freaking ridiculous. I mean, it’s just, I don’t get it. The guy cut his hair. I dunno.

Joy: Well you know what? It was probably becoming so heavy, and he couldn’t get it to stick up anymore. So he was like, “Dang it, I’m just gonna cut it all off.” Good for you, Rob.

Isabel: Well, and not even that. Just that everyone was talking about it all the time anyway, or wanting to touch it.

Tara: Oh my god, that is so repulsive! People weren’t even asking! They were just going up to him and running their fingers through his hair!

Joy: If people were touching my hair, I would be like, “Get away from me! What is wrong with you?”

Isabel: I’d punch them. “What are you doing?”

Tara: I hate people who touch me.

[Laughter]

Joy: You would punch them.

Isabel: I would punch them.

Tara: I couldn’t even imagine. Like, sometimes I’m at work and people will like grab me by the arm and wrist, and I’m like, “Why are you touching me? This is my personal space.”

Joy: And these are people who you know, but a complete stranger being like, “Let me touch your hair,”? You’d be like, “What is wrong with you?” Oh gosh, anyway, now we’re talking about the hair, so anyway let’s move on.

Isabel: God. Okay. Anyway, let’s move on to Samantha; this is a good question we saved for last and she wanted to know: “I was wondering what your thoughts are on the books coming out on Rob?” and we could all talk for ourselves, and I think the general consensus is most of the stuff that’s out there is crap, so--

Joy: We see all those things come in, you know, I mean I can’t even count how many there are. At least five, if not more, and that’s just ridiculous, but there are all these books, and of course they’re unauthorized, which is fine. I mean, I can’t imagine that Rob’s gonna be like, “Oh yes, this is a great book. Go ahead,” but I mean, when it got to the point where one of them was called “True Love Never Dies” I wanted to throw up. I’m sorry, I did. I was like, “This is ridiculous.” There is no way that Rob would sign off on that; I mean just the fact that it says “True Love Never Dies.” What the heck does that have to do with Rob?

Tara: It’s so stupid, and that’s the tagline for Dracula.

Isabel: True Love Never Dies?

Joy: Oh, is it really?

Isabel: Oh God. That’s even cornier now!

Joy: See, they are just feeding the frenzy of people who think that he is Edward, and that drives me insane. It absolutely drives me insane. Do you honestly not know the difference between fantasy and reality? For the love--my third graders know the difference between fantasy and reality, and I see these book authors and I mean I’m ashamed. I wish that I could take all of these people into my third grade class, and give them a lesson on the difference between fantasy and reality. I do. I wish so much.

Isabel: And it’s not only fueled the fire of people not knowing the difference, but I think it also like creates this culture of stalker fans. Like--

Joy: Yeah, it sure does.

Isabel: It feeds the fire really a lot, and there’s so many books out there. It’s like, “The Unauthorized Biography” or whatever. He’s 22. He’s made movies, and he’s done some stuff, and he went to school. It’s not like, a sensational story, and I don’t condone buying the skanky versions of Rob’s books like, the ones where they talk about the unauthorized biography true love never dies whatever.

Joy: Please don’t buy it!

Isabel: Don’t buy it. Don’t read it. Don’t look at it. There is this one book, though that we are actually supportive of. It’s called, “The Robert Pattinson Album,” and it’s coming from Plexus, and to tell you the whole story, they contacted us for our help in helping them publish this book, or helping them in any way that we can, and they’ve sent us samples of books that they’ve done for Orlando Bloom and for Heath Ledger, and they’re all tasteful, and they’re all so well done that even family members like the mother of Orlando Bloom submitted photos for the updated version. So they’re all tasteful, and they’re good books, so that’s one that we do endorse.

Joy: And it should be coming out soon. I think it’s available for pre-order at this point, but of course when it is officially released we will let you know. But yeah, I have the books right in front of me the Heath Ledger and the Orlando Bloom ones that they sent us, and I’m looking at these books and it’s mostly photography, to tell you the truth. There’s a lot of great pictures, a lot of good quotes from the actors themselves. It’s not this trashy, you know, “This is what Rob likes in a girl…” It’s not that kind of crap; this is very well thought out. And they’re beautiful books. Well put together, gorgeous photos, and just the formatting is very lovely. So, that’s really one reason why we signed on with this group to help them with Plexus publishing, is because they willingly said, “We’ll send you samples, we want your approval on this,” and we give it, definitely, because these are actually really well done, and to anyone who knows us, you know that we would not give our approval lightly, but we think that these are well done. Not skanky, or distasteful by any means. So, yeah we definitely whole-heartedly put our support behind this. Yeah, “The Robert Pattinson Album” from Plexus Publishing.

Isabel: So, it’s probably something good to have if you’re a fan, and you’re not like up for printing out all these photos. Just having a book of maybe your favorite photos or things like that.

Joy: Yeah, it would definitely make a good coffee table book kinda thing if you’re into that. But they’re very well done, I’m still very impressed with that. With what they’ve sent us so I’m looking forward to seeing it when it comes out, and I kind of think of it as buying like a handbook for you know, the Harry Potter series or whatever, of which I have many, or like the complete guide to the Twilight series, that kind of thing. Obviously, not a great comparison one hundred percent, but it’s that kind of idea of being a good book for a fan kind of like a little desk reference of his roles, and just his life, and it’s very well done.

Isabel: Yeah, and they don’t breach any privacy issues whatsoever.

Tara: Yeah, it’s very tasteful.

Joy: So, that’s what we think. I mean, the ones that we’ve seen so far just, you know True Love Never Dies-- that I can’t support that, but this one we’ve seen what this publishing company has done, and we definitely support it, so right now it’s available for pre-order, and when it comes out officially, we’ll definitely be putting more about it on the site.

Isabel: We should be hearing more news about it soon because it’s already out for pre-order. So, that’s the end of our reader e-mails. We’re gonna have a couple of wrap-up items. We’ve heard from his management that Rob’s taking a break from press for the next couple of months, so--which is understandable. He’s done press nonstop for the past six, seven, months of his life, so it must be a great welcome break for him.

Joy: Yeah, and we’ve had a lot of e-mails about that. “Where is Rob? What is he doing ?” And some a little more stalkerish than others, but yeah; that’s really why we haven’t heard anything from him recently is cuz he’s taking a break, and I’m glad because we talked last week when we recorded about how we wanted him to have a vacation, and so we’re glad he’s at least able to have one from the press. And he’s probably not lying on the beach in Fiji, but at least he’s not being surrounded by cameras and everything right now. So we’re happy for him. We also got a lot of emails regarding the Christmas project which we recently put together. If you haven’t been following it, we did ask for song submissions for a Christmas project for Rob in which we wanted to send him a collection of song recommendations from the fans because we know he loves music and we wanted the gift to be really special, and just kind of a supportive gesture from the site and from his fans. So for those who didn’t see on the Livejournal community, I posted a final song list which was over 600 songs that we’re sending to him, so there have been a lot of questions about, “How are you gonna do it? What’s gonna happen?” So here’s a quick run down. Basically, what’s gonna happen we’re gonna take all 630 something songs. All the songs are gonna go on an external hard drive to send to him, obviously we can’t fit 630 something songs on a CD so we thought the best way to do it, and the most practical way for him, would be to stick it on an external hard drive. So, that’s what we’ve done.

Isabel: As for the actual status of the project, Joy’s spent a long time compiling the songs, making sure they’re tagged properly, and so she’s sending them to me and the hard drive we ordered should come at the end of next week, the earliest next week, and we should have it to him at the end of the month. So, it’s more of a Christmas/New Years project, but with the mail and everything and it’s a pretty big project, so that’ s the status of it.

Joy: Yeah we didn’t want it to get lost in the mail because, you know, Christmas and New Years is a crazy time for agents and managers and all of those things, so we didn’t want it to get lost because we do really feel like it’s a big project. We’ve spent a lot of time on it and the fans are really looking forward to it, as well; so, like we said, we wanted to make sure it got to him, but it should definitely be to him by the end of the month, hopefully sooner.

Isabel: Yeah, it should be. Hopefully sooner, but definitely by the end of the month cuz we will send it priority when we do send it.

Joy: But we appreciate everyone who sent in songs. People were really excited about this, and we were really excited about it. We try to be creative and come up with some fun ideas instead of just the usual thing every year, so we were actually quite proud of this idea.

Isabel: Yeah and a hard drive is handy to have anyway. So--

Joy: Exactly, get a lot of use out of it.

Isabel: That’s a bonus. Moving along, we have some news for people who are members, and people who wanna be members, and people who are just interested. Like we said when we put up our members-only section that we would have some membership perks when it came to certain sponsors and stuff like that, so we partnered up with a skincare company from Canada and they’re going to be our sponsor, and we’re really super excited about it. They’ve got this fantastic product that I’ve been using for a couple of months, and I can’t say enough about it. It’s completely chemical-free, there are no chemical preservatives, there’s nothing chemical about it at all, it’s all plant-derived ingredients and plant acids, and it’s all good for your skin, and if you’re a member you get a discount on all of their products, and we’re also giving free samples soon; that’s part of our sponsorship is every member will get a free sample of their skin care line. So that’s all I have to say about it right now. We can’t really tell you who it is, or what’s going on, or their website, or anything like that. It’s a start-up company, but they’ve been around for a while, and they’ve just got a really fantastic product. I don’t wanna get ahead of ourselves. There’s no official release date. It’s a project that’s ongoing, but we hope to have--before a month or two goes by, we want to have these samples out and more information for you guys so you actually know who the sponsor is, what’s going on, and what they have, and what their products are, so that’s about it. We’re really, really excited about this and very supportive of our new sponsors.

Tara: Yeah, I’m excited about it. We’ve received a plethora of emails recently concerning fake Rob Myspaces. Isabel had contacted as you know, Rob’s management earlier, and they are right now working on tearing all of those down. So if you see anything that seems--that you think may be Rob, it mostly likely is not, though. Do you guys have anything to say about that?

Isabel: It’s just a little common sense, guys. If you come across a Myspace profile who’s asking for phone numbers, or who has a photo up that’s a paparazzi photo or a press photo, it’s unlocked, and it has his name in the profile name, it’s not him. He has no online presence. We can’t say this enough for people who are sending us links telling us to verify if it’s him or not him, and even Myspace or Facebook sites promoting that they’re him are not him. So, just until there’s official word that--from his management themselves-- they actually have official Robert Pattinson or Twilight or whatever Myspace, that’s the only news that I would take to heart and listen to, and we’ll post that on our site. But, anything that you see up there, they’re fakes, and it’s getting a bit dangerous now with people soliciting young girls for their information and their phone numbers, rather.

Joy: Please, please don’t give out your personal information to anyone on the internet unless you know that it is secure. Especially on Myspace. You guys, Myspace is like a breeding ground for perverts and criminals. I mean, seriously. I’m sorry, but please don’t give out your personal information. It just frightens me.

Isabel: Also, Rob would never ask for your phone number.

Joy: Rob will never ask for your phone number. Not even in your dreams, I’m sorry.

Isabel: We’re not saying it to be mean, but just to keep yourselves safe. He’s not gonna ask for your phone number, your email, or your address. So just don’t do it, and if you hear it and you wanna spread the word about fake Myspace and Facebook sites if they claim to be him, it’s definitely not him, and do not give out your contact information.

Joy: a great way to go about it, and the one that’s official and all of these things, a lot of people after reading our news post about it, went and like bombarded that person, whoever was posting saying, “This is fake” and all of these things, and that’s a good way to go about it. You can trust us, we’re not lying to you. These are fake profiles, so help us out by spreading the word. If you see someone who’s claiming to be Rob, you know, take a stand, protect your fellow fans, report them to Myspace. Post on that person’s wall or whatever it’s called, and say, “This is fake!” so that people can see it because it scares me how many people I see that are like, “Hi Rob! Write to me! I’m gonna send you my e-mail address!”

Isabel: And they want to believe it, and they really want to believe that it’s him.

Joy: Please don’t believe it!

Isabel: Please don’t believe it and help other fans out there.

Tara: Yeah cuz so many people are so very naïve, and want it to be him so much that they’re, you know, they’re giving out their phone numbers, and home addresses to these freaks who are posing as him.

Isabel: And it’s not just fans who are contacting us, it’s parents of fans who are contacting us. So it’s become a serious issue and something to take seriously, so I think people should take a stand and write to these people and try your hardest to see these fake profiles get shut down.

Joy: I mean there’s a great little “report abuse” button down at the bottom of Myspace profiles at least to keep the Myspace administration aware of this stuff going on. It doesn’t hurt to send in a report and say, “This person is a fake.”

Isabel: At least bring it to their attention.

Joy: Exactly. Help us help the fans. Let’s protect everybody because like we said, Rob is not gonna ask for your personal information. That should be a big red flag right there. Please don’t do it. It’s so dangerous.

Isabel: And any of these profiles where you see our fansite is listed, or robertpattinsononline, or robertpattinson.org, none of these fansites, we’re pretty friendly among each other, and none of these fansites have endorsed, or will endorse any fake Myspace pages of people pretending, and none of these Myspace pages have any relation to us. We’re not putting any information there, we’re not related to them or anything.

Joy: Same goes for face book, same goes for Facebook. Facebook has some where it’s just, say that you’re a fan of a certain thing, and that’s fine, be a fan. But if this Facebook or Myspace says, “I am Robert Pattinson or this is Robert Pattinson’s management,” it is not true. Don’t believe it. It’s totally fine to be a member of a fan club, but if they’re claiming to be Rob or his management or whatever, don’t believe it, it’s not true and you can trust me on that. Anyway we can go on and on. We’re so scared for you guys! we wanna protect everybody, it’s a real threat.

Isabel: We care about our fans.

Joy: We love you guys. Anyway we’ll move on the last piece of news. I guess that we wanted to remind you of is our members-only contest. We’ve got quite a few members and we haven’t gotten any entries yet for our contest. I know! I’m so sad because it’s a great contest. Basically, we’re holding a contest related to the Pattycast where we are asking our members to send in an intro to the Pattycast music-related something we can play at the beginning of each Pattycast to kind of get people in the mood, something fun instead of just us saying, “Welcome!” You know, something to have a little intro basically, so we’re asking our members to kind of step up to the plate help us. It’s a fun contest, especially for people who are creative, and it doesn’t have to be super fancy. We’re not asking for a musical masterpiece, you don’t even have to write your own music. You can take music that you like and mix it with a computer program, whatever, have fun be creative send it in by Jan. 24th that is the deadline. So far we haven’t had any entries. It’s really sad and we really like this contest. We think it’s really fun. We’d love to have some fan-submitted intros to use so that Tara and I, or Isabel and I, don’t have to do it ourselves. We want the fans to become involved, we want this Pattycast to not just be about the three of us; we want you to have input. So, check it out, it’s listed on our members-only page. If you’re not sure how to find that, you can go straight to the main page of the website and you’ll see a nice little members-only button right there. Click on that, it’ll take you there, and you’ll see where it says members-only contest. It’s got all of the information there, the guidelines. We’ve only got a couple weeks left, and we haven’t gotten any submissions, so please, please, please, check it out if you’re a member. If you’re not a member you should be, so check out.

Isabel: Yeah just check out membership. Just also a little aside: we’ve gotten a couple of e-mails from people who still aren’t sure why we have members-only all of a sudden. I dunno why some people just don’t understand. We’ve become a very big website, we attract numerous amount of visitors, we have thousands and thousands of visitors, we have between 35,000 to 65,000 unique visitors, people who’s computers are only logged once, these are unique individuals, separate people, one computer, and that’s a huge amount of people coming to our website, which means we had to be taken off shared hosting. And when you start thinking about dedicated hosting, you have to pay--we pay about $325 a month; that’s the base cost of everything we do. That’s just hosting and that’s like a car payment. I mean, it’s a significant amount of money, so we’ve supported the site out of our pockets until we literally couldn’t any more. So, that’s what we decided was to have some sections be members-only. So, I hope that clears up some of the confusion as to why. I mean we’ve posted about it, we’ve talked about it, but just out there if you’re not a member yet why not and this is why.

Joy: We’re not being greedy, we promise. It’s not going to line our pockets, believe me. We are not going to get rich off of this.

Tara: Oh no, definitely one of the perks about being a member is that you get to enjoy so much stuff that non-members can’t. You’re included in our exclusive contests, you’ll be getting exclusive merchandise, I mean, so there’s so many perks to being a part of this site in that way. You know, even though it seems you know kind of shocked kind of like, “Oh my God!” but you’re getting a lot out of this.

Isabel: And not only that, you’re helping support us if you enjoy the news, and you enjoy the Pattycast, and anything you see that you enjoy on the website, you’re part of the solution to keeping us running, and I mean, that’s--we can’t thank all the members who’ve signed up enough, but like you said, it’s a continuous thing. We have to keep paying these bills every month, so if you’d like to keep us around, think about becoming a member. It’s a good way to help us and in return get something out of it. I think that’s it for our Pattycast tonight. We had a good time discussing everything. As usual, email us if you have any questions it’s admin.pattinsononline@gmail.com. Goodbye from Isabel.

Joy: And from Joy.

Tara: and Tara

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