Episode 014 "Darth Janna"

Isabel: Hello and welcome to the PattyCast. I’m Isabel.

Joy: And I’m Joy.

Janna: And I’m Janna.

[Bump]

Janna: Ouch!

[Laughter]

Joy: That is staying in! Are you okay!

Janna: Ow! That was not planned.

Isabel: [While laughing] Are you okay?

Janna: [Sounding pained] Oh, sorry.

Joy: Welcome to the PattyCast, where we beat up our hosts.

Isabel:—With office furniture.

Janna: I was, once again, attacked by my desk.

[Laughter]

Janna: How rude!

[Laughter]

Isabel: Okay, well let’s hop into the news. So, word on the street—that we can verify—is that Rob is going to be on the cover of Vanity Fair in October or November. We will tell you specifically which month it is when we know more, but we know for sure that he will be on the cover this fall, so that’s exciting.

Janna: Woohoo!

Joy: Yeah, I’m looking forward to that. Vanity Fair always does really great articles with him, you know? They’re not just like, “Oh my gosh your hair is so pretty!” They’re actual, real articles.

Isabel: No, it’s like the GQ one. I’m looking forward to this.

Joy: Yeah, the GQ article was my favorite—

Isabel: Me, too.

Joy: So I’m looking forward to this; this will be a really good one.

Janna: —They always go—

Joy:—And we did get that confirmed.

Isabel: Yes, so look for that. Some Potter stars talk about Rob. Do you wanna read Emma’s quote? You love Emma.

Joy: Yeah, I put these in here cuz I just thought they were pretty funny, and most of what we hear about Rob these days are, “Oh, he’s so depressed!” And everything, but Emma Watson and Daniel Radcliffe had a few little cute snippets to say about him: “[Pattinson] is a super nice guy. I’m really happy for him that he’s gone on to be so uber successful. It’s really good. I hope he’s doing okay. It’s gotta be tough.” Well, that was more depressing than I thought, but whatever.

[Laughter]

Joy: But Dan, who I just think is hilariously nerdy and cute, he goes, “Rob Pattinson is a sex symbol. Rob Pattinson is a genuine sexy guy. He’s got the height.”

[Laughter]

Janna: Poor little shorty.

Joy: That just kinda made me go—

Isabel: He focuses on the height because he’s so small.

[Laughter]

Joy: Like the pictures from the Half-Blood Prince premiere? He looked like such a little Hobbit next to everyone else, it was so cute.

Isabel: Cuz he stopped growing like three years ago.

Joy: Oh, bless him. He’s so adorable. I just had to throw those in there cuz I thought they were so cute and I know that now—like Harry Potter’s just come out, the sixth one, and they’re all like, “Oh let’s capitalize on the Potter stars and get them to talk about Rob so we hit two birds with one stone.” And all these things, so these reporters know what they’re doing. It’s ridiculous. But they made me laugh anyway.

Isabel: No, I like them. Plus, it’s Potter time anyway, so.

Janna: Yeah.

Joy: Exactly, let ‘em have their spotlight back.

Isabel: Yeah. From—Twilight stole it, to be honest.

Joy: They will gladly give it back to them.

Isabel: Okay, moving on, Rob’s going to Comic-Con. I think this is suicide, personally.

Janna: Oh, God! What is he thinking?

Isabel: I don’t know. But the—it was—the story was broken by Variety, and there’s no—it said that he wasn’t going to do any interviews. So, I think that’s pretty smart but I think it would’ve been smarter if he just didn’t go. I mean, they keep saying that he’s not going to do any interviews because he’s not such an integral part, so what’s he doing there?

Joy: Well, see that’s what I was wondering. Why even bother going? But at the same time I think as smart as it is on Comic-Con’s side, it’s kind of a smart move for them to have him there because that’s gonna sell

Isabel: —a bazillion people will be there.

Joy:—a lot more tickets, you know? Granted, they’re going to be selling tickets anyway. Comic-Con is a big deal.

Janna: You know what though?

Joy: What?

Janna: I think they were sold out before it was even announced that he—yeah.

Isabel: Mhm.

Joy: Well scratch that, then.

Isabel: Yeah, it sold out already.

Joy: Well maybe they-

Janna: Yeah, but why is he going?

Joy: —Press is there? I mean—

Isabel: And you know what, though? Maybe it’s not really a true story. Maybe it’s just—but that would be very silly.

Janna: Yeah.

Joy: You know, a lot of people have been saying, “Oh it’s been confirmed,” “Oh, it hasn’t been confirmed,” and to be honest, like, at any moment Rob and his management could pull out of the venue and just say “No, he’s not gonna be there,” like we saw with the kid’s Choice Awards, or whatever. So, whether they say it’s confirmed, it’s not confirmed. Nothing’s gonna be 100 percent official until the actual day when he’s actually there.

Janna: It wouldn’t surprise me if they had like a last minute “scheduling conflict.”

Joy: Yeah, I would.

Janna: I would, I’d be like, “Oh, man, I’ve gotta wash my hair!”

Joy: But I think it’s smart for him not to do any backstage interviews, and that’s what it says. That’s not to say—I think people are afraid he’s just gonna kind of sit there and not say anything at the panel. I think if he goes to the panel he’ll be very active. And I’m sure the fan girls will ask stupid questions. But I think what they’re saying is he’s not gonna be out in press-land after the panel, being attacked like he was last year. So,—

Janna: Right.

Joy: But the reason that they gave was that he’s not the main character in the movie. So that’s why he’s not doing any interviews and that kind of didn’t smell right to me, you know what I’m saying?

Isabel: Yeah, seems a bit shady.

Joy: I was like, is that the real reason for why?

[Laughter]

Isabel: No, Rob just doesn’t wanna die.

Joy: Well, I know right, if I were him I’d be like, “Yeah,” you know, “It’s cuz I’m not the main character.” But you know that’s not his real reason. He’s probably scared out of his pants to go there.

Isabel: That’s where it all started.

Janna: In his pants?!

[Laughter]

Isabel: No! In the insanity at Comic-Con.

[Laughter]

Isabel: Scratch that. Janna has a dirty mind.

[Laughter]

Joy: You cannot be shocked by this.

Janna: I know. Dirty.

[Laughter]

Joy: Anyway.

Isabel: One of our readers, she sent us this snippet of an e-mail and DJ says, “Comic Con is coming up, and I envy anyone who is going, I live in the UK so i don't have that privilage of going. I just wanted to say that i hope everyone who is going has a really good time, and to the crazy-out-of-control-screaming fan girls to please just consider Rob's feelings, i know that last year he could hardly say a few words because of the screaming, but it will interessting to know more about how he feels about Edward and about the movie, and to those lucky people who get the chance to ask questions... please DON'T ask questions like "why is there such a hot cast" because that question was answered a long time ago, andd you don't get the opportunity to ask the cast questions everyday so take advantage of that and ask questions that haven't been answered PLEASE!!” Amen.

[Laughter]

Joy: You know, to be honest, when I went to the Twilight convention—when was it, last weekend? The weekend before? I was really impressed with the questions because I was really afraid it was gonna be stupid questions like, “Why are you so hot?” But it really wasn’t. There was a handful of stupid questions and I was like, “Ugh, they ned to pre-screen these.” But generally, people asked really good questions. So that kind of gives me a little hope for Comic-Con that it won’t just be this screaming panel.

Janna: I hope so.

Joy: Cuz I remember last year—you guys were there—and I was trying to watch it, it was like streaming live, and you couldn’t hear anything. Like, all I was doing was sitting at my computer listening to screaming. I had to turn it off. I couldn’t even watch it. It was horrible.

Isabel: We couldn’t really hear anything after. That’s why we had a couple drinks. Because it was the most insane thing we’ve ever lived through, I think. Those whole two days, pretty crazy.

[Laughter]

Joy: Yeah. So I’m really, really hoping that these fans will not be so stupid this time around? I don’t know. Sorry if that’s mean, but it’s true.

[Laughter]

Janna: One can only hope.

Joy: One can only hope. Anyway, moving right along.

[Laughter]

Isabel: Okay, what’s next? Okay, New Moon, you start with the articles and stuff.

Joy: Yeah, there’s a lot of New Moon stuff going on right now, mostly because I think the information embargo has been lifted. You know, like if reporters get to go to the sets and do interviews, a lot of times they’re not able to publish them right away, so that’s why you might read a set report or an interview that says, “I interviewed them back in April…” And you’re thinking, well why did it take them ‘til July to post it? Just because they usually can’t. But now apparently everything is coming out. We’ve got set reports, we’ve got interviews, and it’s all really good material. A lot of it is kind of the same as what other people have, but we did kind of gather up a few of the high points, and the first was an interview with Wyck Godfrey, who’s one of the producers of the Twilight Saga and he’s great, he always has good stuff to say, and that was from Hitfix.com, they actually have quite a few good articles this week. Anyway, some of the stuff that I liked about the interview with him was just where he was talking about filming in Italy, and the question was: “It does bring up one problem that you had on the first movie that you probably haven’t had here on a closed set in Vancouver. I remember we were up on the set in Oregon, and there were fans around the corner waiting to watch every scene. Now you’ll be in Italy in a huge public square, are you guys worried?” And Wyck says, “It’s certainly going to be an issue. I mean, it’s everywhere. Every where we shoot that’s not on a lot, you get the fans coming in, but I’ve always found that the 'Twilight' fans are supportive fans. I mean, they’re there, but they really just want to see what you’re doing and whatnot but they understand that like being disruptive will not help get the film to the screen and I think our hope is that the European audience will be the same.” And then he goes on to talk about how mostly the chaos revolves around Rob, and stuff that we already know about, but I thought it was interesting cuz later on I wanted to talk about Remember Me and how they don’t have a closed set. But I thought it was interesting how he was saying, you know, that for them it’s not really a huge disruption. Which is good because with Remember We—

Isabel: Remember We!

Janna: Remember We!

Joy: With Remember Me, we’ve seen a lot of just chaos and disruption which we’ll talk about a little bit later, but I really liked that quote from Wyck Godfrey.

Janna: Yeah, I wonder if his opinion changed after Italy because there was basically no press, or no set pictures, or anything like that, when they were filming in Oregon but when they were in Italy, all those pictures came out and this was before that. So I wonder if he changed his mind. He’s like, “P.S. Never mind.”

Joy: Maybe.

Isabel: Yeah, maybe.

Joy: It was interesting, yeah, well there was this one video that the Lexicon had up that was some girl who, I guess, lived in the square where they were filming in Italy, had like filmed out her window—

[Laughter]

Joy: Which was fantastic. I watched the whole thing. It was like ten minutes of the scene with Alice and Bella and the yellow Porsche coming up. And the video was kind of boring cuz it was just—they drove up in the car like five times, or whatever, and it was a lot of like, people just standing around. But, from what I could see just in that video, it seemed like there wasn’t a lot of chaos on the sidelines. It seemed like everyone was really focused on what was happening and there wasn’t a lot of like, background noise that you would hear from screaming fans or anything. It just seemed very mellow. So I’m hoping that the set, and—like you said, you know, they’re there but they just kinda wanna see what you’re doing, and I really think that that’s the way to do it. Like, personally I would love to go and see any movie be filmed, I think that would be fascinating, but, you know, you have to know as a fan: there’s a line. You can’t ruin someone’s movie just because you wanna scream at some hot guy. That just—that’s millions of dollars that you’re wasting of their time, you know? So anyway, I’m glad that this craziness is not extending that far in. you know what I mean? Like, it’s not destroying the movie cuz that would make me even more frustrated, but whatever.

Isabel: Yeah, but they’ve been really good at closing off the set so far, so they haven’t really been—

Joy: Right, I think that’s so smart

Isabel: Worrying about that. Well, last year was kind of hard for them because the fans were all over the place, right? Coming up to the cars and everything, so it wasn’t just—I mean, I think he’s being a bit idealistic. Not all the fans were that accommodating.

Joy: Yeah, definitely, definitely. But I think they’ve gotten smarter.

Isabel: Oh yes, oh yes.

Joy: Because I don’t think—obviously when they first started Twilight, I don’t think anyone knew how crazy it was gonna get, and so that’s why I think they’re being much smarter with the closed sets and working on the lot instead of doing as much out-in-public kind of stuff. So, anyway, I think that’ll be good for the actors and for the movie itself. I think it’ll be a lot less stressful for them, and they’ll be able to do more of what they want, you know what I’m saying?

Isabel: Mhm. Yeah, totally.

Janna: He answered everyone’s big-ass question about Breaking Dawn. Even though it’s technically not—

Joy: Oh, yeah!

Janna: —confirmed. It will not be rated ‘R,’ it’s unconfirmed that it’s going ahead but he’s pretty, like, he’s just talking about it like

Isabel: It is already

Janna: And he’s like, “Whoops, I shouldn’t be talking about it.” And he thinks that Renesmee is gonna be a bigger challenge to film than the vampire birth scene. He’s not worried about it.

Joy: Oh my gosh, his comment about that!

[Laughter]

Janna: It was really funny.

Joy: Wait, do you have it? Read it, cuz it’s so funny.

Janna: It’s the one about, “My wife’s an OB/GYN; she thinks that it’s the best way to birth a baby, just bite it out.”

[Laughter]

Joy: I read that, I was like, “Oh my gosh! I can’t believe he just said that.”

Isabel: Oh, that’s awful.

Joy: So funny.

Isabel: I mean great, guys.

Janna: So yay, Breaking Dawn people, aren’t you excited? It’s not gonna be rated ‘R’.

Isabel: You can all watch it.

Janna: Everyone can see vampire babies being born.

Isabel: You can just see the blood squirts—

Joy: I don’t think they could get away with making it rated ‘R’ anyway. As much as it should be, like, they couldn’t get away with it.

Isabel: No.

Joy: Maybe with a Harry Potter film, but I don’t think they could get away with an ‘R’ rated Twilight film. Aw, I’m gonna get hate mail.

[Laughter]

Janna: That’s the theme of the day.

Isabel: It’s true, though. The books have been going on for a couple of years, now. Like, people have grown up with the books. I think there’s a lot of people who would see it in rated ‘R.’

Joy: Oh, yeah, a ton of us would watch the ‘R’ rated version but—

Isabel: Probably won’t happen.

Joy: I think probably because the ‘R’ rated stuff would be more like—

Isabel: Violent

Joy: Romantic-wise as opposed to the—Harry Potter, if it was rated ‘R’ would be more like, magical violence, you know?

[Laughter]

Janna: Right.

Isabel: Well, that’s what I thought it was going to be cuz it’s people beating up other people and like people graphically dying. Like, she describes it.

Joy: Well.

Isabel: Anywhoodle. Next: 15 things about Rob. This article—I really liked it, I thought it was fun.

Janna: I thought it was funny.

Isabel: I really liked that she said that the back of his chair with the yellow tape and he just spells out his name.

[Laughter]

Janna: Yeah!

Joy: Yeah, he crosses out “Edward Cullen” on his chair and writes, “Rob.” I liked the part where she talks about—they were doing the scene where Jane is torturing Edward in Italy, you know? And she talks about how he just kept having to hit the ground, like really hard, and she just said like, ‘This man suffers for his art.’ And I think that’s so true. I thought that really kind of encapsulated Rob, you know what I’m saying?

Janna: The thud that it makes when he hits the ground is sort of like the thud of a dying kitten, every time you stalk Rob, they die.

[Laughter]

Isabel: They die, yeah.

Janna: With a big fat thud.

Isabel: We’re not at the Soap Box, yet.

Janna: Sorry!

Joy: Hold it back, hold it back.

[Laughter]

Janna: It’s so difficult.

Isabel: And I also liked the part in the article where she said it doesn’t matter how old the women are on the set, or who they are, or what they do, every time Rob comes around, everyone, like, gravitates towards him a little bit.

Joy: Oh, I would. Oh gosh, I would follow him around like a puppy.

[Laughter]

Joy: “Hey Rob, how’s it going?”

[Laughter]

Isabel: “Can I buy you some lunch?”

Joy: I loved the quote from Rachelle from that article where she talked about, you know, how most of the cast is like—their lives are pretty much the same, but Rob has to do CIA evasive maneuvers to go to, like, a restaurant.

[Laughter]

Janna: Poor guy.

Joy: I loved that. I thought it was such a cute quote. Sad. But cute.

Isabel: Yeah, very sad.

Joy: Poor Rob. Anyway, I liked that article.

Janna: And Rob is down with the F-bombs.

[Laughter]

Joy: Yeah, we knew that. He’s British, come on.

Janna: It’s officially even more acceptable for me to drop a few on the PattyCast.

Isabel: Rob does it, why not? Okay, Chris Weitz, he was interviewed on Rotten Tomatoes.

Joy: He kind of says a lot of the same things as everybody else but the one thing I think that made me the most excited was that they’re really working hard to update the bedazzling effect—

Isabel: Oh, good. Then he must’ve heard that we were unimpressed.

Joy: I was like, thank you. Because I hate that, it’s like the thing that I hate the most. And I love pretty much everything about Twiligh,t but every time I watch that I’m like, “I hate you, sparkle effect!”

Janna: That was really bad.

Joy: I was so glad that they’re working hard. And because, in the trailer, the special effects on the wolves were so awesome, so that kind of like got my hopes up. I was like, “Maybe they could do so much better with the sparkle if they can make the wolves look so cool.” So, because no one can deny that that part of the trailer, where Jacob explodes into the wolf, that is pretty kick-ass. I was like, “That’s a really good special effect,” in my opinion. So I was like, “Maybe the sparkles will be better.” and then when he talked about how they were really working on that to make it more of like a sunshine-y effect, instead of just like, Edward’s body glitter—

[Laughter]

Isabel: Edward’s body glitter.

Janna: Victoria’s Secret.

Joy: It’s true! They didn’t do any special effects on that. They were just like, “Let’s get that Hot Topic body glitter for Edward. Just slather it all over him.”

[Laughter]

Janna: Well, that’s good that they’re fixing it. Now all they have to do is work on Jacob’s weave and we’re good to go.

[Laughter]

Joy: Well that’s another great thing, in some of the interviews that I was reading with Taylor—cuz I love him, he’s so adorable—he was saying that he only wears the wig through, like, part of the movie, and they had like a little celebration when he got to be done with it because—

Janna: Yay!

Joy: Jacob gets to cut his hair in the book, so of course Taylor gets to cut his hair in the movie—well, take off the wig. But he was like, “It was so exciting.” And they were like, “Do you wanna keep the wig?” And he was like, “If I do, I’ll burn it.” I was like, “He must hate that wig as much as we do.”

Janna: Would you like to keep your--

Isabel: Awww. God.

Janna: That’s what it looks like. Terrifying.

Joy: Oh gosh. Anyway, we did get a lot of really good set reports, like I was saying, and most of them revolved around the Volturi filming; especially that scene with Edward and Jane and the whole torture thing, mostly because from what I could tell from reading the articles there were only five news outlets that were allowed on the set. Which, actually I thought was kinda smart for them, but anyway, so they all kind of—they were all there on the same day, and they all saw the same thing, so a lot of the set reports were like, “Oh yeah, Edward got tortured by Jane, blah blah.” But they all had some kind of interesting things to say—

Janna: Oh! The Twilight soundtrack. That was something that really caught my attention. Cuz it was—Chris Weitz talked about the possibility of Radiohead and Kings of Leon. Or—

Isabel: That’s awesome.

Joy: Right.

Janna: Yeah, that would totally be great for me.

Joy: Yeah, I hope that they really get some good music. I think that they probably take some advice from the stars about what they want, cuz we know that—well, Rob likes Kings of Leon—but in Twilight, like, Kristen Stewart got to pick the Iron and Wine song, and, you know. So, I think that there’s at least some input, I mean, I’m sure that they don’t just say, “Okay, whatever you say, we’ll do that,” but I think that they probably do take suggestions, which I like. I think that kinda makes it more personal, which’ll be cool. I’m looking forward to it, cuz I really like the Twilight soundtrack; I listen to it all the time. So I’m hoping the New Moon soundtrack is really cool. One thing I noticed in the set reports was that all of them talked about how much Green Screen work Rob does, so it kinda makes me wonder—because obviously in New Moon Edward doesn’t show up a lot, and they’re doing a lot more like, kind of piecing him in with these visions and whatever that Bella’s having, so like, he obviously doesn’t have a lot of like, on the set time, which I think is probably how he was able to do so much with Remember Me and all that stuff, you know, like with prep-work and all that other—all these other movies that he’s jumping in on, cuz I think he’s doing most of his New Moon stuff on a Green Screen, which is probably, maybe a little more relaxing to him? I don’t know.

[Laughter]

Isabel: So he’s not near anyone.

Joy: Exactly. I just thought that was interesting, I don’t really what to make of it; I just thought that was kinda like, “Oh, alright.” Although I read about four articles where they all talked about him looking like Obi wan Kenobi, and I was like, “What the heck?”

Janna: Where he’s having a moment? And you’re like, “Uh, no. Not really.”

[Laughter]

Joy: “Help me Rob-i wan Kenobi…”

[Laughter]

Joy: It’s like, “What?” Stop! Anyway, I thought that was pretty strange.

Janna: Oh my God! My Darth Vader mask!

[Laughter]

Joy: Put it on!

Janna: I have it! Hold on, lemme put it on.

Isabel: Oh, this is so great, props on the PattyCast.

Joy: I’m laughing at this anyway, and she hasn’t even done anything.

Isabel: I know.

Janna (w/Darth Vader voice): Hello?

[Laughter]

Isabel: You have to do the rest of the news with that on your head.

Janna: I will destroy you!

[Darth Vader creepy breathing]

Janna: Luke! I am your father! Isabel—

[Laughter]

Janna (normally): I am dying I have to take this off.

Janna (Darth Vader): May the force be with you—

Isabel: What?

Joy: May the force be with you.

Isabel: From this PattyCast. Joy can you please power through the rest of this?

Joy: Yeah. One thing I thought was interesting from the HitFix set report was where the—what is the word I’m looking for? Where the reporter talked about how they had something very strange happen where they were all sitting waiting for the scene, or whatever, and she said—or he said, whatever— “A man who I can only assume was the Assistant Director came out from the closed 360 Volturi hall and announced, "All guests clear the set." And that didn't mean Ms. Meyer, her companions or the Summit executives in front of the monitors, that meant us — the press. So, without complaint we walked off the soundstage to be followed by an overly genial Wyck Godfrey, the film's producer we'd spoken with the day before, who, paraphrasing, remarked, "Sometimes things like that happen on a movie set." Uh, sure they do. Not with press around.” So, from what I gathered, like, this isn’t a normal thing for press to be kicked off the set like that, especially when they’ve been invited. So, what I’m thinking is there was like some kind of secret scene going on that they didn’t want anyone to know about. Like, that was my impression. Cuz I mean, it wasn’t like the press was misbehaving. It wasn’t that kind of thing because they were allowed back on a little bit later. So I don’t know, I’m wondering. What do you guys think that might be?

Janna: It’s probably something like that.

Joy: I couldn’t think of anything.

Isabel: Yeah, that’s the only thing I could think of, but I don’t know why.

Joy: Yeah, I thought that was interesting. So it’d be interesting to see like later on once the movie’s out if that kinda gets cleared up and they say, “Oh this is why we kicked you off the set that day,” Especially if all those people were invited specifically to the set that day. So, I thought that was kind of interesting; something that they were doing in the Volturi hall.

Janna: Either that or somebody had like a Jerry Maguire freak out.

[Pause]

Isabel: Um, what?

Joy: Rob is crying in the corner.

[Laughter]

Isabel: Oh, yeah.

Janna: “Why are they stalking me?!”

Joy: The person who’s giving birth to Rob’s baby.

[Laughter]

Isabel: Oh, God. Renesmee.

Joy: Anyway, the last thing I kinda wanted to talk about the set reports was: Taylor had a little quote on the Hollywood.com set report where he just talked about how calm Chris Weitz is, which I thought was kind of funny because we all know that Catherine Hardwicke is not a calm director.

Isabel: No.

Joy: She’s like full-force fangirl all the time.

Isabel: She’s like, spastic, yeah.

Joy: And she’s—I mean, I love her, she’s fantastic. It must be such a different mindset to have Chris Weitz, who, apparently, from what everyone has said, is just real mellow and is kind of just like, “Let’s talk about things,” and just kind of what’s the word I’m looking for? Just very straightforward in his directing. And even Taylor said: “What I love about Chris is the set is very calm, and we’re just having a lot of fun making the movie. And then you sit back and you look at the results that are happening, and it looks amazing so far.” I think it’ll be cool to see what Chris brings to the set, cuz, to be honest, the only thing that I’ve seen of his is About a Boy and I really liked it that it’s totally different than New Moon, and—

Isabel: Yeah, and it’s old.

Joy: And I didn’t see The Golden Compass…

Isabel: I didn’t either.

Janna: I saw it.

Joy: I know a lotta people said it was crappy, but I don’t know if that was necessarily his fault. I don’t know if it was because it was so different from the book—I think that’s mostly what I’ve heard—but I don’t know, what do you think Janna?

Janna: Yeah, the movie itself wasn’t crappy, I mean, visually it was pretty amazing, but —

Joy: Yeah.

Isabel: It didn’t follow the book at all.

Janna: No, yeah, I think that’s what the problem was. I mean, I didn’t find the movie all that interesting. I didn’t really understand it. But I haven’t read the book, so I don’t really know what the difference is, I can’t talk about that. So it was just kind of, meh.

Joy: Right, so I’m not really worried about Chris Weitz. I think he’s gonna do a great job because, like you said, it was good visually, and About a Boy is a great movie, and you know, he’s not in charge of the script, and I personally think Melissa Rosenberg does a great job with the scripts. Obviously, she has to cut stuff but that’s a whole ‘nother issue. But I think New Moon’s gonna be great. I’m looking forward to it. And not just because I’m a huge Twilight fan, but I think just from what we’ve seen with the set reports, and the videos, and the pictures, I think it’s shaping up to be a really good movie that looks like it’ll be as close to the book as they can make it.

Janna: And I think it’s good, too that they’re taking into account the things that people didn’t like about the first one, like the sparkle effect and trying to appease the fans.

Isabel: Yeah, that’s cool.

Joy: That’s very smart of them. Obviously, they know how crazy Twilight fans can be, and by crazy I mean like, involved, you know what I mean? I mean they know how invested we are in it, so I think it’s very smart of them to look objectively at what people are saying and think, “Hey, how can we fix that?” It’s very smart of them. Cuz I know that they even fixed the sparkle effect somewhat for the DVD release, like they made some changes on it for the DVD—slight changes.

Janna: I didn’t know that.

Joy: So even in that transition they made it look slightly better on the DVD. And that was with a tiny budget. So I’m imagining with the bigger budget on New Moon there’s a lot more that they can do. So anyway, aside from the set reports, we learned that the New Moon trailer is going to be shown in theaters in front of the movie Bandslam.

Janna: Booo.

Joy: What do you guys think about that?

[Laughter]

Janna: I think I’m going to be catching the New Moon trailer on YouTube, cuz uh—-

[Laughter]

Isabel: Yeah, cuz I’m not gonna go see that.

Joy: For those who don’t know, Bandslam stars Vanessa Hudgens and —

[Laughter]

Joy: Stop laughing!

[Laughter]

Joy: And you know, that kind of…group. Anyway, here’s the summary from IMDB, this is what it says. “A new kid in town assembles a fledgling rock band. Together they achieve their dreams and compete against the best in the biggest event of the year—a battle of the bands.” Not really something that I am probably gonna see. I’ll probably wait until it gets on DVD or, you know, on TBS in a couple years—

[Laughter]

Isabel: I’m gonna see it never.

Joy: You’re gonna be first in line at the theater, don’t lie.

Isabel: Oh yeah. Vanessa Hudgens is not my favorite.

Joy: To be honest, I’ve kinda heard mixed reviews from what I’ve been reading online.

Isabel: It’ll get the tween category, you know?

Joy: Well exactly, like this is gonna be hitting, like, the Disney channel crowd: the kids who maybe are—

Isabel: —The Jonas Brothers lovers.

Joy: The ones who think that Rob is beautiful, those little girls. That’s who they’re trying to hit, which I think is probably a smart move.

Isabel: Yeah.

Joy: Because people in our age group, like the older fans who’ve kind of stuck with Twilight from the beginning—

Isabel: We’re gonna watch it regardless.

Joy: We’re gonna watch it regardless. We don’t need to go see the trailer in front of Bandslam, you know?

Janna: Right.

Joy: We’re gonna be YouTube-ing it and all that stuff, so if they’re putting it in front of this High School Musical-ish crowd, then they’re gonna be hitting a new crowd that maybe hasn’t seen Twilight or isn’t following it as obsessively as the rest of us. So, I think for Summit it’s probably a smart move, but, like, I don’t—I mean, I’m hoping that’s not the only movie that they’re gonna show it in front of. And they said it would be in front of Bandslam on August 14th—

Janna: That’s pretty soon.

Isabel: Yeah.

Joy: Yeah, but that’s just because that’s when Bandslam is released into theaters. So, I’m sure that they’re gonna be putting it in front of other movies, I mean, you know—

Janna: Bandslam reminds me of Pogs. Why does that remind me of Pogs?

[Laughter]

Joy: Pogs? What the heck is that?

Janna: Like, slammers?

Isabel: You don’t know what Pogs are?

Janna: Pogs were the sh—

Joy: Yeah, good times. Okay, although I have to say: this movie does have Lisa Kudrow in it, who I adore, and apparently David Bowie is making an appearance? What the heck?

Isabel: Do these people not have anything better to do?

Joy: I’m looking at IMDB—I don’t know.

Janna: David Bowie I loved you in Labyrinth! That’s about it.

[Laughter]

Isabel: Yes.

Joy: And in Zoolander.

[Laughter]

Isabel: Stop going into teenybopper movies. Anyway, so there’s this thing about the Knoxville premiere, and everyone’s up in arms about this, and my question is: They do premieres everywhere. Like, why is everyone so hyped up about the fact that it’s gonna be in Knoxville? I think people are stuck on the fact that they think it’s gonna be the only one. Doesn’t make any sense.

Joy: Well exactly. That’s the thing. I think people are forgetting, hey, there were tons of premieres for Twilight. It’s not gonna be the only one, and when I was at the Con the Twilight Lexicon girls were talking about this specifically, and they said that it’s most likely gonna be a charity event because this theater in Knoxville—and the name escapes me, but anyway—this theater mostly does these kinds of big charity black-tie event premieres to raise money for whatever charity it’s going for that time. And I don’t have all the details or information, but this is gonna be a big premiere, you know? But it’s not gonna be the only one. You can still go to an LA premiere, probably, I’m assuming a London premiere, maybe New York, maybe a few European international ones, you know, we had Tokyo last year, so I think people are freaking out prematurely. If you’re in Knoxville and you—-

Isabel: That’s you Twilight fans!

Joy: You know—

[Laughter]

Joy: Yeah. And I talked with Laura from the Lexicon about this briefly, and she said that there probably won’t be any huge stars—like Rob and Kristen probably won’t show up, I mean, maybe. You can’t say no right away; it’s still how many months away? But there might be a fan-section of the red carpet like usual, but I don’t know. I kind of think that if you’re in the Knoxville area, follow the papers, look and see what you can, get a ticket if you can, but don’t be surprised if Rob doesn’t show up. You know what I’m saying? We did get an e-mail from Jennifer about this, and she said: “Do you think that Summit did this because Knoxville would be "safer" than say LA or New York for the cast members?” I don’t think that’s—

Isabel: I don’t think that’s it, either.

Janna: Yeah. I mean, seriously, people from—look at me I’m going to Dallas to go to Twi-Con and I’m not really somebody who gets excited about Twilight. Think about that. If this really was the big premiere that they’re planning, which I don’t think it is, Twilight fans would fly there. They would go.

Isabel: Yeah.

Janna: It’s not gonna be any safer, it’s gonna be exactly the same.

Isabel: But it’s not the big premiere anyway, so.

Janna: Right exactly.

Joy: It’s not. And they always have huge security at these premieres, anyway. Like, you don’t see the cast members getting attacked at the premieres. It’s the usual red carpet screaming, do a few autographs, take pictures and get inside. Like, I don’t think safety is necessarily an issue. They’ll still have security. The stars will be safe, don’t worry about it.

Isabel: Alright, next up we have Remember Me news. Are you guys done? Sorry. I just sort of jumped in there.

Joy: Yeah.

Janna: Yeah.

Joy: Yeah that was a lot.

Isabel: Yeah. So next we have news for Remember Me. They possibly are finished filming for this month. I think that would be accurate, cuz he has to go back to Vancouver relatively soon.

Janna: Yeah.

Joy: I was looking at this kind of around the internet to see when are they gonna be done, cuz they’ve been filming since, April, I wanna say. I might be a little—

Isabel: May, I think.

Joy: Yeah, around April, May, so they’ve been filming for a little while. I’ve heard reports like, “Oh, it’s gonna be done on Wednesday this week,” or, “Oh, it’s gonna be another month or so,” but they’re kind of in the final wraps. I know several of the actors are done with their parts. Obviously, since Rob is a main actor he’s gonna have to do some post-production and stuff, and maybe film some extra scenes. But, generally, they’re gonna be wrapping up soon and I’m really happy because it’s just —

Isabel: It’s been chaos—

Joy: It’s just been so chaotic for him. Did you guys watch that video about the director—with the director in it?

Isabel: I did. I did.

Janna: That was awesome.

Isabel: That was awesome.

Joy: Basically, what happened was the director in this video, he goes to the paparazzi and says, straight out to them, “You guys just ruined this take!” Basically, get off my set, stop ruining this. And I was really glad that he did that. He was very polite but straightforward saying, “You guys just screwed this up.” And I think—that’s just appalling to me. Kind of like what I was talking about with New Moon. I mean, they’ve got a closed set, so they don’t have to deal with this as much, but just the fact that these paparazzi are willing to go so far that they would ruin an entire scene? I mean, how much does that cost, for a day of filming? I mean, like they have deadlines to meet and everything and it just really made me sick to see that they were doing that.

Janna: Yeah.

Isabel: Not to mention it’s just rude and disruptive to begin with.

Joy: It is! So rude.

Janna: It’s getting out of—it’s really out of hand. It just keeps getting worse and worse.

Joy: It does.

Isabel: Like, it sort of slows down for a little bit and then people feed it so it gets bigger and bigger again. And becomes a big—

Joy: Exactly, and then when you have lovely people like Perez Hilton who are outing the locations and saying, “Oh everyone, Rob’s filming at such and such location!” I mean—

Isabel: A bazillion people are gonna go.

Joy: It’s just making it worse. And it’s ruining this film, and if I was the director, I’d be pissed.

Janna: Yeah, I don’t think I’d be polite about it if I was the director.

Isabel: No.

Joy: He was very, very polite. And in the video, his security person even spoke first, and he was—I mean, he was very clear and very straightforward, but he was still very polite to them. I would not have been that polite. But from what I could see in the video, the paparazzi kinda backed off. But that kinda leads to my question: Do you think that they should have closed the set?

Isabel: I think they should’ve closed the set a long time ago.

Joy: I know, I mean they let it go so far. I mean, I guess it’s a New York film, they wanna film it on the streets of New York, but you can build a set if the lives of your actors are in danger. You’d think that would be kind of a clue to them like, “Hm, maybe we should film on a set today,” or something.

Isabel: Maybe we should close it down.

Janna: Exactly.

Joy: It just frustrates me that they’re not taking action, as well.

Isabel: More precautions, yeah.

Joy: I mean, I don’t know how much—I don’t know how all the politics and everything that go with it, but I mean, I don’t see how hard—it would probably be pretty difficult for them to say “Okay, let’s move this entire scene,” but to me, that would be worth it. To take the time to move the scene to a set or inside or whatever they have to do—

Isabel: I don’t think it would take too much to put more security around the set to begin with.

Janna: I think they need to beef it up.

Joy: I know. It’s kind of like they’re asking for it, and then they get pissed when they have to, you know, knock the paparazzi out of the way and all this stuff. I mean, A) The paparazzi shouldn’t be acting like that but, B) They should be more proactive in saying, “Hey, get away from here! Hey here’s some more security.” It’s just kind of a vicious cycle; they just kind of feed off each other, and it just becomes chaos.

Janna: Man, yeah, it sucks. On the one hand, they’re trying to make the movie that they wanted to make and they wanna have the background of the New York streets and stuff. It sucks that they’d have to compromise, but realistically is it helping them to have the disruptions that they’re having? No. So move it to a different place. Your actor is in peril, basically—

Isabel: Everyday.

Janna: In danger. So why don’t you take that and the fact that your scenes are now being interrupted into account, and perhaps move it to a different place, or a closed set, or perhaps get some more security. It’s just like, beef it up, people, come on.

Isabel: Yeah, it’s common sense. Let’s do it.

Joy: Well, plus, you know, we all know that Rob takes these roles really, really seriously and he really works hard at getting in character, and he does a lot of research and pre-work and everything and this can’t be helpful to him as an actor to have—I mean, if I were him, and—we know he’s already afraid of getting stabbed an everything—If I were him, I would be afraid just to go out and film a scene. Like, that shouldn’t be a part of his life. He should be able to go and film a movie without having people attack him.

Isabel: Well you know, this movie right here, and this set, and this New York is what spurned us to talk about and start whatever we’re gonna talk about in the Soap Box, so maybe we should talk about the question that Debbi had, cuz I think it leads to that, you know? About the photos and everything of him looking really sad. Do you want to read that?

Joy: Sure, yeah Debbi e-mailed us and just said she’s been seeing pictures of Rob on the Remember Me set and he seems so sad and unhappy. She says, “I know he may be getting into his role but when you see pictures of him on the set from Twilight and New Moon he is smiling and just seems more relaxed. Do you think it is the craziness of New York fans or that he is just more comfortable with the cast of Twilight?”

Isabel: I think it’s the craziness of the fans. I think—yeah, he’s comfortable with the cast of Twilight, but it’s a completely closed set. He’s gonna be happier when he leaves.

Joy: Yeah, I agree. So, kind of away from that whole chaos thing, cuz we will be coming back to that, what do you guys think about the movie itself? I mean, we’re starting to get a little bit more of what it’s gonna be about. Do you think it’s gonna be a good career move for him, like a good film, or do you think it’s gonna be a lame, cheesy, romantic…I don’t know.

Isabel: I think it’s gonna be lame and cheesy and romancy, but I think that he needs something like that right now. Something light, something fun cuz we see a lot of him tackling a lot of roles that are heavy. Like even art was a bit complex, so I mean—

Janna: Yeah, I totally agree. I think, especially for fans like Isabel and I who kind of prefer him out of the Twilight-based things, for the first time he’s playing like, a normal guy. He’s not a wizard, he’s not like, an intense outlandish artist, he’s not a vampire, he’s like a normal guy.

[Laughter]

Janna: And I’ve looked at some of the set pictures and the videos that have been about. Not many of them. I can’t really get too much of an idea about what the story line is but yeah, it’s gonna be cheesy it’s gonna be romantic. It’s different though. I’m ready for that. I’m ready for the different movie.

Joy: Yeah, I’m looking forward to it.

Isabel: And less intense.

Joy: I think now that I’m starting to get more information about it I’m like, “Okay I think this might be kinda cool.” Cuz when we first heard about it, we were like, “It’s like a romantic drama comedy,” and I was like, “What?”

Isabel: It’s better than that bio-terror attack.

[Laughter]

Joy: Oh, gosh. Well let’s not talk about that. But I have to say, the one thing I did learn today while kind of looking up some more information about it was that the little girl we’ve seen in all the pictures actually— from what I’ve read—plays his little sister in the film—

Isabel: That’s so cute!

Joy: —which I think is gonna be so cute.

Janna: How cute!

Joy: And actually, that kinda got me a little bit more excited about it cuz I just kinda want, I mean, we know that he hates kids, you know—tongue in cheek—but I wanna see him interact with that little girl cuz she just looks so adorable, and the pictures that we’ve seen they just look like they work well together? In kind of a weird way. I just think it’ll be really cute so, I dunno.

Janna: That’s my favorite statue!

Joy: I think the movie’s gonna be cheesy, but I think I’m gonna enjoy it. I mean, I love cheesy movies, anyway.

Isabel: Yes, you do. Shall we talk about Little Ashes?

Joy: Yes.

Isabel: Let’s start with our reviews of the movie. Well let’s just talk about generally, we can talk about it with—I mean, I don’t know if you wanna just go off and talk about what we think, but I think we’ll probably say the same thing cuz we all think alike.

Joy: Yeah. There might be a few spoilers, so a little warning if you haven’t—

Isabel: Spoiler alert, yes.

Joy: We can’t promise that we won’t spoil it.

Isabel: Okay, so I really—the overviews that I really enjoyed watching, I think it was a really pretty movie, one of those movies that had really good music. I really liked the cinematography, they shot it really well. There wasn’t much dialogue, so there was a lot of actual acting in the movie and I really like that. But yeah I found it hard to follow the plot a lot of the time. I think I needed more background information to actually understand the movie first off, but individual performances I thought everyone was great. I even thought Lorca surpassed Rob in some scenes.

Joy: He was fantastic.

Janna: Yeah.

Isabel: But as for Rob, I thought he was—I’ve never seen him this animated before, I thought he was completely great. What do you guys think? I thought that this was one of those things I’ve never seen him act any better.

Janna: Yeah. I agree.

Joy: Totally, this was definitely his best acting-wise. I mean, I always was really excited about this movie and I knew that it would be really good acting-wise for him, but I was just blown away. I mean, like I was talking to you before, like Rob just completely disappeared in this movie, you know?

Isabel: The accent!

Joy: I mean, there were occasions where I was like, “Oh, that was a Rob face!” but generally, he was Salvador Dali and it was just fascinating to watch.

Isabel: Yeah, I couldn’t tell—you couldn’t tell that there were any of his mannerisms. And much of his facial expressions, you’re right, it was completely something new.

Janna: Yeah. He definitely immersed himself in that role completely. I didn’t recognize him at all.

Isabel: No.

Joy: Yeah, it was just —I was just completely amazed at the whole movie. Like you said, there were parts that, like you said, they were really confusing. I’d like to watch it again just to kinda get some of the back-story, and I think there was a lot of political stuff—

Isabel: That just went over my head.

Joy: That went over my head. And I had done a little bit of research on it beforehand, like even before I watched it, but there was still stuff where I was like, wait, what’s going on? What’s happening? To be honest, I think there were some parts that it might have been the accents.

[Laughter]

Joy: For me personally, it would’ve been easier if I had just watched the movie in Spanish. Because there were some parts where I was like, wait. I had to rewind and watch again.

[Laughter]

Isabel: You can’t understand what they’re saying, yeah.

Joy: I know, to be honest, I could’ve understood the Spanish much better. But that wasn’t the whole thing, like, I think maybe subtitles would’ve been helpful but I didn’t have subtitles. So, I dunno. I was really, really impressed. Yeah. Javier Beltran, who played Lorca was just fantastic.

Isabel: He was so great, really.

Joy: I was so, so impressed.

Janna: He was kinda smokin’.

Joy: Yeah he was.

Janna: Hey, how’s it going?

[Laughter]

Joy: Sorry Janna, he likes Salvador better.

Isabel: Yes, he does.

Janna: Allow myself to introduce myself.

[Laughter]

Isabel: No, but he was, he totally was—thought that Dali was dreamy. All the looks that he kept giving him from the beginning—I’m surprised that his friends didn’t catch on early enough. But I think that was like, yeah, a lot of private moments that were supposedly caught between them. So consensus, we loved it.

Joy: I thought it was really well done.

Isabel: Yeah, really well done.

Joy: And to be honest, guys, it was really a lot funnier than I thought it would be.

Isabel: Yes! Me too! Rob had some one-liners.

Joy: I mean, obviously, it was not supposed to be a funny movie. It’s very depressing. But there were parts where I literally laughed so hard. Like you said, his one-liners were hysterical. They were like, very much in place. Very appropriate. They fit in, but he would just come out with this stuff, and I was like, “Where did that—what is going on?”

Isabel: My favorite part was where he was screaming about an enema.

[Laughter]

Joy: I loved that.

Isabel: “Where is my enema?!”

Joy: Or his bear, when he was like [xx] the bear!

[Laughter]

Joy: And his little like, Dali dance that he did. It was so incredibly quirky but still in character.

Isabel: Like, I’m no Dali expert, so I can’t really tell if he’s doing it really well or if he’s doing really poorly, but from what I know, and the photos that I’ve seen, he’s captured the essence, to me. Whether or not it’s exactly, I don’t know.

Joy: And it didn’t seem fake. It could very easily have been very slapstick, but it wasn’t like, it really—just the character development that you saw in the film, all of that quirky, silly stuff really fit in, and so you didn’t think like, “Oh, what is he doing? That’s really weird.” Like, it just worked. I loved it. I thought it was great.

Isabel: No, I thought it was great too. So, consensus is that we love this film. We love it. I think it’s artistic that they’ve also meshed in some archival footage with the actual movie. And—

Joy: Yes, me too.

Janna: Yeah.

Isabel: And I really like how when Lorca’s reciting his poetry, it’s in Spanish, and the over—the voice-over is the actor speaking. I just liked that artistically. I really enjoyed that.

Janna: Yeah, that was nice.

Joy: That was beautiful.

Isabel: That’s all I have to say.

Joy: Do you guys have any favorite scenes?

Isabel: I loved the mirror scene. We’ve seen it before, but this is obviously like DVD quality, so I really enjoyed watching him be so quirky.

Joy: Yeah, that was so funny. Oh my goodness. I think my favorite was the bike riding scene just because it was just—

Isabel: Beautiful

Joy: So beautiful and it looked so happy. And the color of that scene. The whole thing, I don’t know. The whole time I was just like, “Wow, that’s such a beautiful scene.” And they were so cute, where they first found the bicycles, and Dali was kinda like, “Hey, let’s take the bicycles.” It was just really cute, and I just loved that scene. It was just real short and sweet, I thought.

Isabel: Yeah. I really liked that. Let’s get into some—

Joy: What about you, Janna?

[Laughter]

Janna: I liked the swimming scene, actually. I thought that was very visually pleasing.

Isabel: Oh you liked the sparkles, I think.

Janna: No I liked the blue.

[Laughter]

Janna: It was very pretty.

[Laughter]

Isabel: Okay, let’s get into some reader e-mails about Little Ashes. D’Arcy saw it and she wrote us and she said, “I thought it was a beautiful film and was blown away by the entire cast, but I have also read a lot of negativity about the movie and Rob's performance in particular on the IMDB message boards and was very surprised. Maybe I am biased because I love Rob so much, but I have read Salvador Dali's biography and seen footage of the real man and thought Rob did an amazing job portraying the quirky persona of this bizarre and intriguing artist. I'm wondering if maybe the haters just haven't done their research before casting their criticism on the movie.” I kinda was drawn to the same conclusion when I read this e-mail that a lot of the people probably are just wanting to put him down because he’s so popular; they only see him as Edward, or only want him to be typecast as a pretty face. But, I don’t think he did a bad job at all. But like I said, I’m no expert.

Joy: And you know, like this role was such the complete polar opposite of Edward Cullen. Like, there are no comparisons, and I think a lot of people are expecting him to be Edward Cullen in every single movie and he’s just not. To be honest, and I’m gonna get so much hate mail for this—Edward Cullen is kind of, like compared to Dali, he’s kind of a dull character. And I say that carefully because I am a huge Edward Cullen fangirl, and I don’t want anyone to think like, “Oh, you hate Edward Cullen.” I love Edward Cullen. If he was real, I would marry him.

Janna: He’s simplistic.

Joy: But, he’s very you know, from what we saw—okay, let me clarify this. In the movies—the books are completely different—but in the movie Twilight, he’s very like, one-dimensional, I guess. I should probably cut this out because people are gonna kill me. But you know what I’m saying?

Isabel: Yeah, we know what you’re saying.

Joy: But Salvador Dali in Little Ashes is so completely the opposite that I don’t see how people can make comparisons. You know? Because there’s so much depth and it’s so much like, going from perfect gentlemen vampire to like twisted, practically-on-the-verge-of-insanity artist, how can you even compare? So I think, like you said, what she was saying about the negativity and everything, a lot of it is just because people are like, “What? Edward Cullen is now Salvador?” And people are confused—

Isabel: Yeah, because he didn’t do this movie before Twilight.

[Laughter]

Joy: Yeah, I wish this had come out before Twilight. Like, I wish that it had gotten its release earlier but I think people, like you said, are just—

Janna: Yeah, they’re just—

Joy: They want him to be typecast even though they say, “Oh, I don’t want him to be typecast!” Even though they complain about it, they’re doing it. They’re typecasting him, you know?

[Laughter]

Isabel: Good job, guys.

Janna: If anyone was gonna criticize him, it would’ve been, like, the directors and the fully Spanish cast who he was working with, who all said he was absolutely amazing and that he portrayed the character of Dali very well. So Twilight fangirls really don’t have anything on them. They can’t really say—

[Laughter]

Joy: Yeah. Wow.

Isabel: Okay, Stephanie also wrote to us, who wants to read Stephanie’s e-mail?

Joy: Janna does!

Janna: I hate you! God, that’s a long one. Stephanie says: “I saw Little Ashes back in June, and it was tragically beautiful. You really feel for Dali & Lorca. Their angst, and longing for one another was compelling and I truly lost myself in their story.. The scenes were very passionate, and the surrealist point of view was ever present throughout the entire film. In a way I think the movie is in essence about Lorca. They mainly focused on Dali's relationship with him, and his life during that period. However I think it was more of the lasting impression Lorca left on all the people he was close to, even after death. Rob as Dali: All I can say is, I forgot Rob was even in the movie. You really see him as Dali. He's completely immersed himself into his character, and brings an innocence to the role. Give that man an Oscar! Favorite Scene: Dali learning of Lorca's death. When he learns of Lorca's death it's heartbreaking how Dali reacts. He fails to pieces, his emotional walls crumbling around him, and realizes just how much he loved him. He takes a moment to collect himself, and emerges as the iconic painter who will live on through generations. (In a previous Patty Cast I believe Joy was reading an interview with the director, and this is the scene that they shot in 5 minutes, one take only; seeing that scene, there was no need for a second take, it was tearfully passionate, and perfect)”

Isabel: Yeah, that was amazing.

Joy: I totally agree. That scene was fantastic. I mean, I was crying. Okay, I’ll cry at a Hallmark commercial—

Isabel: Yeah, you cry at everything.

Joy: But seriously, I was bawling. It’s so powerful. And to be honest—spoiler alert!—the ending when Lorca died was like, totally caught me by surprise—

[Laughter]

Joy: Even though I had read about him and everything, I totally forgot that he died!

[Laughter]

Joy: I was like, “What happened!?”

Isabel: Joy just kind of cut that out.

Joy: But like, sorry Janna—

Janna: I actually already knew that.

Joy: I guess I just forgot, I was so into it—

Isabel: It’s kind of hard to give spoilers about history, you know?

[Laughter]

Joy: I know. I’m sorry.

Janna: I am actually slightly familiar with this.

Joy: Well you know people don’t know their history.

Isabel: No.

Janna: But I’m smart!

Joy: I know that like I knew I had read it a billion times cuz I did a lot of research on it, but then I was like, “What?! He’s dead?! What’s going on?!”

[Laughter]

Janna: Cuz you get so into it in the movie and you’re like, “Whoa! Hold the bus!”

Joy: I thought it was good that they ended it there, like, with his, you know, dramatic painting scene and then when he did the thing with the cape and—what did he scream at the end? What was his last word?

[Pause]

Janna: Shit!

[Laughter]

Isabel: I don’t know.

Joy: He yelled something really weird. Anyway, that whole final scene was just, like, a perfect place to end it, you know?

Isabel: Yup.

Joy: They didn’t try to drag it out and they weren’t like, “Let’s see how everyone is, Life after Lorca!” That was just it.

Isabel: Done.

Joy: And I thought that was very, very good.

Janna: Oh! I remember what he screamed.

Isabel: What?

Janna: He said, “That’s what she said.”

[Laughter]

Joy: You’re sick.

Janna: (yelling) “That’s what she said!”

[Laughter]

Joy: Hey! We did it pretty good, guys. We made it through the news! It only took us three hours.

Isabel: Let’s jump into the Soap Box. I really am excited about our new project. We’re getting such good support from everybody about this. So, our new project is kind of a culmination of all of our Soap Boxes put together, and it’s called Project Flan…s. And Joy, you can tell everyone what it stands for: the acronym.

Joy: Yes, Project Flans stands for Fangirl Leaders Against Needless Stalking. Basically we came up with this as a response to the hundreds of e-mails that we get, and all the Soap Boxes that we talk about with the chaos with Rob and the paparazzi, and how much we just hate it. We’ve just gotten more and more frustrated over the years with how Rob is treated by people who call themselves fans, and by the paparazzi, and everything. So the main idea of the project is basically to educate the fans, and just say, “Look, this is what’s going on. Here are things that you can do to help stop it.”

Isabel: Yeah, cuz this is what we’ve been saying all along, but I think we needed a place to consolidate everything, and a place where fans could also speak out and add their voice to ours.

Joy: Exactly, and we’ve just been so overwhelmed by the fan response to this. Just within the first hour of getting the project up and running, we had how many e-mails? I mean, just it’s phenomenal.

Isabel: So many we can’t even count how many e-mails we’ve received.

Joy: So wonderful. And that’s not even counting the ones that we’ve gotten before we even started it. It’s just been fantastic, I mean, really and we’ve said this over and over again, we’re really proud of the fans who are standing up and saying, “look we’re not gonna take this anymore.”

Isabel: And helping out and really speaking out. It’s been great.

Joy: It’s just been absolutely wonderful. Some of the things—well, you can access the project if you go to our main site robert-Pattinson.co.uk, you can access it there. There’ll be a big huge banner that says Project Flans on it or you can just add ‘/project’ at the end of our URL and that’ll take you right there, as well. Basically, the stuff that you can find there right now—I mean, we’re still building— but we’re trying to keep updated with fan e-mails, we’ve got a whole section called “Speak Out” where if you e-mail us and tell us your opinions on this whole thing, we’ll put up your e-mail for everyone to read.

Isabel: And any fan participation like out in the world, or whatever it is that we are calling you guys to do or you feel compelled to do for the project, we love to hear what it is that you’ve done and peoples’ reaction to you. We’ve posted a couple things about our fans who’ve gone around and done some magazine flipping like we suggested in previous PattyCasts, so—

Janna: That’s awesome.

Joy: That’s been really fun to read the e-mails from people that have been like, “I went into the supermarket and I flipped over all the magazines!” and I just think that’s so wonderful, and I mean, it’s such a simple thing to do and it really is so great to see people taking action even though—sometimes you can’t do a big huge thing. Sometimes all you can do is go and flip over magazines, but that’s not to say that that’s a little thing, you know? It’s still powerful, you know? And if everyone can just stand up and say, “We’re not gonna take this anymore, we’re not gonna let these gossip sites and tabloids and crazy fans destroy someone’s life just to get what they want”—I mean, that’s just a powerful thing. I think that the world kind of underestimates the power of the fangirl, you know?

[Laughter]

Isabel: But use it in a positive way.

Joy: And that’s a good thing, and I think our goal is to kind of channel that power into a positive thing, cuz so many people have e-mailed us saying, “What can I do?” And it’s one thing to rant and rave about it, which we certainly do our share of, but it’s another thing to actually go out and do something. And it makes you feel kind of empowered, to go out and flip over a magazine, or write an e-mail to a tabloid site, and I think that’s just such a powerful thing—

Janna: No, it is! I actually did the magazine-flipping myself. And I was so proud of me!

[Laughter]

Janna: I actually really did feel good. It was a simple thing, to be honest, but—

Isabel: And it’s peaceful.

Janna: Yeah, exactly. And you can tell the reaction just by the reaction of the people that work at the store that you’re getting a reaction from someone and that’s good. Maybe they’ll see you turning around magazines and look and think, “Maybe we shouldn’t carry crappy-ass content like this?”

[Laughter]

Isabel: Yeah, no one wants to buy it.

Janna: Yeah, if no one wants to buy it, they won’t put it up, so.

Joy: Right, and that’s what we’ve talked about before. It’s kind of a vicious cycle, where the magazines will publish what the fangirls wanna read, and the fan girls will read what the magazines will publish. So if we can get people just to stop the cycle, that’s a powerful thing. And we’re hoping to spread more awareness about this, you know? Obviously, our main focus is Rob on the project, but I mean, you know, he’s not the only celebrity who’s being attacked by paparazzi and insane fans, so.

Isabel: And who can’t live their normal lives, or order a Starbucks drink without someone taking a picture of what it is they ordered. I mean—

[Laughter]

Janna: Right, that’s sad.

Joy: You’re living under a microscope, and I know a lot of people say things like, “Well that’s what they signed up for, that’s their job.”

Isabel: No, it’s not what they signed up for.

Janna: Noooo.

Joy: It’s not true. It’s really not. We really do believe that Rob should be able to walk outside of his house without getting attacked. Any celebrity should be able to go to the grocery store and buy a gallon of milk without having people taking their picture.

Janna: I think you’d be hard-pressed to find somebody that thinks that how overboard things have gotten with Rob is normal, or that he’s signed up for it, or that he deserved it, and I’m so happy that there’s so many fans out there that feel the same way that we do. And I’m really excited that we can be a forum that you can air your grievances and take a stand. You know, just to be a part of that is great.

Isabel: And we have two things that you can—ideas sort of things that you can participate in right now, ones that we mentioned was the grassroots magazine movement. So if you feel daring enough, just go out to your local Borders, or wherever it is you buy magazines, and just turn around those magazines. And do it peacefully, it’s not meant to get into any altercation with any of the management, or any of the staff, just explain to them what you’re doing. And they’ll probably leave you alone, to be honest.

Janna: And there’s not much that they can do to get you in trouble. I know that Anna had a bad experience, but—

[Laughter]

Janna: I mean the worst that they could really do is kick you out of the store, which, they’re not gonna remember you the next time you’re there.

Isabel: Well she didn’t—

Joy: She just ran away.

[Laughter]

Joy: I thought that was really cute. But seriously, we don’t want you guys to do anything illegal, obviously, but basically the whole idea is just to raise awareness and get more people to stop buying these tabloids and feeding these rumors. On the site we’ve even compiled a list of gossip sites that we’re boycotting, personally. And to be honest, a lot of them are sites that we in the past have posted news from, such as Celebuzz, and even People, occasionally, has some good stuff, but we’ve decided to go even further and say even if they’re not posting something that’s paparazzi, even if it’s a good article, because of the source we’re not gonna post it anymore. And that might cut back on some of our news, but we’re willing to go the extra mile and look for reputable sources instead of feeding the frenzy. We’re hoping that we can encourage fans to do the same.

Isabel: And the other thing that—yeah sorry, go ahead.

Janna: I was gonna say I know that Isabel really wants to talk about the next one, the anti-Perez campaign.

Joy: Yes, do it.

Isabel: Yes, well we feel that Perez Hilton has gone above and beyond everything that he’s ever done before, and he outed recently a location for Rob’s shoot, and this is after all those videos are released of his fans mobbing him and him not being able to get much peace on the set, so that’s kind of despicable to let that out on Twitter and have tons of people there, basically, mobbing the set. It’s disruptive, and it’s kind of endangering the people who are working there. So, after a couple brainstorming ideas with the girls, we decided that we’re gonna start a campaign and you basically unfollow Perez if you’re following him, and you—I guess you “pound” unfollowperezhilton as often as you want to, and encourage your friends sand encourage other people, and that’s about it. Stop visiting his site. E-mail him. We’ve got a fan that’s already written him a very beautiful letter that you can read on the project page, and I think that’s everything, unless you guys can think of anything else?

Joy: Yeah, well don’t forget you can also follow us on Twitter. We made a Twitter specifically for the project. Obviously, just go to Twitter.com/project flans. So far we’ve got over 150 followers just for the project, which is fantastic. It’s really just been encouraging, I know for me, to see that we’re not alone in this. I mean we sit on our Soap Box week after week and scream about this as much as we want, but to see just the flood of fan support that’s come in has just been really, really fantastic and so we appreciate everyone but really those are our favorite e-mails to read.

Janna: Absolutely.

Isabel: Yes, they are.

Joy: People getting up on their own Soap Boxes, it’s fantastic, it really is.

Janna: And feel free to put in a message with your pound unfollowperezhilton and let everybody know who follows you what you’re doing. We also put in funny messages that we think are encouraging to fans, and they seem to like it.

Isabel: Yes, go ahead, make funnies of your own involving unfollowing Perez Hilton.

Joy: Exactly. We also have some merchandise up in our Café Press store with like the project Flans logo and stuff; just kind of fun stuff, so feel free to check that out. And of course any proceeds that we make towards that goes directly back into the site and into the project, so…that’s all I’ve got.

Janna: Awesome fan-quote, Lola says, “is this like the pro-life protest against the papz for rob? cause you all need to make some pamphlets and shit”

[Laughter]

Joy: I love that.

Isabel: I love that, too.

Joy: Thank you, Lola, that is hysterical, that made us laugh so hard.

Janna: I think I might make a pamphlet if I have like—usually I have, like, time at work throughout the day, so I can Photoshop.

Joy: Well, kind of along with that, we got some more listener e-mails, I mean, we got hundreds of listener e-mails this week, but we picked out a few to read, and some are, again, about this whole issue, the first one comes from Ellen, and she says: “On your last podcast "The Real Flans" you were discussing a listener e-mail who was asking why Rob is so famous and has so many obsessive fans. I agree with a lot of what you were saying and wanted to expand on that. I think that Rob's fame is due to a number of factors that all came together to create this insanity that surrounds him. First of all there is the phenomenon of Twilight. Girls were and are still captivated by this intense and fantastical romance between a normal (relatable) girl and a gorgeous, loving and protective vampire. Then, when Rob was cast in the role of Edward - the ultimate "perfect" boyfriend - all the love that these girls had for Edward was transferred to Rob because they finally had someone who was real and they could see, hear, touch and talk to. On top of all of this, I think that Rob's personality plays a big part in the stamina of his fame. Rob is a very self-deprecating guy and is always joking around because he doesn't take himself so seriously; not to mention that he's also smart, polite, talented and very good looking. If he had a boring personality, had no acting talent or let the fame go to his head, I would not be a big fan of his. For me, personally, it's his personality and talent that I am a fan of. I think that this is how he keeps peoples' attention and why they continue to adore him. So, when all of these factors came together it created the phenomenon that is Rob Pattinson. Also, I would like to add that I'm sure this will all pass when the fan girls move on to a new gorgeous guy they can scream at. Hopefully Rob will be able to get back to his normal life when this is all over, and I doubt that we will see something quite so insane as the Twilight craziness for awhile.” That was a long one, but she has a really good point.

Janna: I think her e-mail is spot-on, to be honest.

Isabel: Yeah.

Joy: Rob needs to be a jerk, and people will leave him alone.

[Laughter]

Janna: I don’t think it’s possible, though.

Isabel: No, he can’t.

Janna: I totally agree with her, it’s like a trifecta of occurrences.

Joy: I know, Rob really is just a great guy, and he got cast in Twilight, and it’s just—he can’t help it

Isabel: It’s totally true. No, he can’t help it.

Joy: He’s an unstoppable force!

[Laughter]

Isabel: Alright, next e-mail is from /æzusIna/—is that how you say her name, I think? And she said: “I was wondering what your opinions are about the way TMZ talks about rob. I honestly feel that the way they express themselves about him on their show and website is kind of harsh and rude. To me they seem to make a big deal about other celebrities for anything they do, but when its about rob they dont have anything good to say. I was just wondering what your thought were about that.” Well, that’s what she said, but,

[Laughter]

Isabel: What you thought about that. Well, I think that again, it’s like the Hater Syndrome where they see that he’s so popular, and girls love him so much, that they have to hate on him all the time.

Janna: I completely agree.

Isabel: And it’s just—we boycott TMZ, as well, not that we reported any news on them, or anything, but—

Joy: Yeah it’s been really sleazy.

Janna: Yeah, I don’t watch TMZ. I don’t really know what they say about him, but it’s definitely a Hater Syndrome.

Joy: And there are some people that are just always like that; that’s just kind of the way that they are: anything that’s big and popular and cool at the moment, they’re like, “Oh, I hate it! Ra ra ra.” So you can’t take it too seriously. We’ve made the choice just to stay away from it just because like she said, it’s harsh, they’re rude, there’s no need to expose yourself to that stuff.

Janna: TMZ is like when Keepin’ it Real Goes Real, goes wrong.

[Laughter]

Janna: When Keepin’ it Real goes wrong.

[Laughter]

Joy: Exactly. Wow.

Isabel: Oh, yes.

Joy: But all of those sites—Perez Hilton and all of those—they make their own popularity off of other people’s misery and I’m not okay with that, so I don’t wanna promote that, you know?

Isabel: No, not at all.

Joy: Anyway, that’s—we talked about that a lot, so I’m sure everyone knows our opinions by now.

Isabel: Yeah, alright, let’s read the next one from Marci, I can read it, as well, “I watched or read one of Rob's interviews awhile back and the interviewer was talking to Rob about the screaming fans and he asked Rob something like "How do you want people to respond to you if they were to see you out in public?" (I am paraphrasing here.) And Rob was like he didn't want people to respond at all. I have thought about that a lot since I read(or watched) that. I mean here is this guy who doesn't want anyone to take any kind of notice of him while he's out trying to do his own thing and that is all they are doing! It's the exact opposite of what he wants.” Which has been our point for a very long time.

Janna: I actually wrote, Duh Award on this one, but I don’t want to Duh Award a reader. But I’m like, yeah.

Isabel: It’s a good Duh Award, not a bad Duh Award.

Janna: Yeah, more a Duh to the people who were interviewing him.

Joy: Yeah, exactly, and I think she does have a really good point, though. Rob has always been honest about how uncomfortable all this makes him, and nobody seems to be taking notice and, you know, by—nobody—I mean, like, these crazy-ass fans but obviously there are people who are trying to respect him, but we just want it to be more.

Janna: Right.

Joy: So that’s kinda what we’re working towards.

Janna: Hannah says, “I came upon this article that said Daniel Radcliffe thinks of Rob as a sex symbol, but he's too short to be that hot. It gave me a laugh, but why do you think that people think of him as a sex symbol or some hottie and not a talented actor/singer. He's really cute, and you can gush over it, but America is going mental with these new actors and actresses. Americans are just obsessed with his hair or his spray-on muscles. They don't appreciate him for who he really is. I don't think that's a nice way to think of him and can't understand why they take it this far.” Okay, I’m gonna intervene for a moment here.

Joy: Go, Janna, go!

Janna: This question made me snarky, and I don’t mean it snarky towards Hannah you know, personally, but I’m an American, I’m the first to say my country is rather lame at this particular time.

[Laughter]

Janna: But you know what, a couple years ago—

Isabel: A rousing statement.

Janna: I gave a rousing speech about the peril that has befallen us as a nation.

[Laughter]

Janna: How ridiculous we are, as people—

Joy: Who did you give this speech to?

Janna: Seriously, you don’t even want to know. It may have involved margaritas. It may have involved reciting the preamble of the Constitution. And—I digress. I’m the first to knock America, especially when it comes to Hollywood, but seriously, the Robert Pattinson obsession is worldwide. I can translate fangirl scream into like Japanese, German, French—

[Laughter]

Joy: Yeah.

Janna: I’ve learned, simply from the work I did as a media archiver on this site—

[Laughter]

Isabel: Best job ever. It’s like the department of redundancy department.

Janna: Yes! But please don’t hate on America, it’s idiot fan girls worldwide who obsess over him.

Isabel: Yeah, plus, hello! There are a lot of British girls who are also mental for Robert Pattinson.

Janna: Exactly, and I knew—

Joy: Plus, you kinda have to think, America’s a really big country, so we just have more people.

Isabel: We’re just louder—

Joy: We have a higher ratio

Isabel: —And more obnoxious and

Janna: We have enough problems, don’t want that crap on us too!

[Laughter]

Janna: You wanna talk about America? Talk about our crappy-ass economy. Go for it. I’ll talk about it with you 'til the cows come home.

Isabel: The fangirl thing is not our fault.

[Laughter]

Janna: Anyway—not to get on a Soap Box, but that just irritated the crap outta me.

Isabel: Well good for you.

Joy: But, okay, can I tell a little side story? This is a good one. I have so many great stories from the Con. You know, well, Kellan Lutz was at the convention in Atlanta that I went to, and he knows how adorable he is, you know, he’s just one of those guys—he’s lovely but he just totally works it. But there was this one point where at the vampire ball—yes I went, shut up Janna.

[Laughter]

Joy: Where he was—he and Ashley Greene were going around to the different tables and saying hello, and just spending a little time, and he pretty much like hugged everyone in the room. It was so cute, and Allison and I were watching kind of from the sidelines, and we kept watching these two girls, who would like, inch their way across the room to try to get close to him. And cuz like, the thing was, is that the—he had like a handler who was going with him who basically was making sure that the fangirls weren’t like, attacking him, but these two girls—the thing was, Kellan was gonna go to every single table, so everyone had to wait at their table and he would come to them. These girls did not wanna wait. And so they kept going around and like, trying to sneak around the handler to get to him—

[Laughter]

Joy: There was one point where one of the girls literally launched herself at Kellan, and like, attacked him in this hug and Kellan is just like, “Whatever!” He’s totally like easygoing couldn’t care less, you know, he was like, “I’m a chronic hugger” he just loves to hug everyone, but the handler, man I thought she was gonna bitch-slap her—

[Laughter]

Joy: She was like, “No!” And she like, yanked her away. It was so funny. So she was like, “Go back to your table, Kellan will come to your table.” These girls did not give up! They got up again, and were like trying to sneak—

[Laughter]

Joy: So, Allison and I were like, “Oooh! They’re gonna get her!” We were like watching this happen and it was just appalling. I mean, thankfully Kellan is just like, totally oblivious, you know, he just loves all this attention, whereas Rob would probably be like, crying in the corner—

[Laughter]

Janna: Poor guy.

Joy: Kellan was just like, “Whatever! I love the fan girls!” you know? It was so funny. I was getting ready for them to get kicked out because I thought that the handler was gonna kill them. It was so funny. But I was like, you know, it’s not like this crazy fan syndrome isn’t just a Rob thing; it’s not just an American thing, you know?

Isabel: It’s a celebrity thing.

Joy: It’s like this mental think that some of these girls have that they think “This is the way that I’m gonna get that celebrity to love me forever and ever!”

[Laughter]

Isabel: Is attack them! When fangirls attack.

Janna: Oh my God—

Joy: I just thought that was funny—

Janna: You guys, it’s a momentous occasion.

Joy: What?

Janna: I’m about to do my 500th Tweet! What should I do, what should I do?

Joy: Oh my gosh, you have to make it good!

Isabel: I don’t even know how many I have.

Joy: There’s so much pressure!

Janna: For my 500th update, my 499th was “unfollowperezhilton.” I was so pissed. That could’ve been my 500th.

Joy: Wow Janna, this is a lotta pressure man.

Isabel: Yeah, what’re you gonna do? I think you should just roll with it.

Joy: I think you have to use all of your characters, and you must include #bert somewhere in there. And possibly the Darth Vader helmet. There’s a lot riding on this.

Janna: Okay, go, I’m gonna keep going

Isabel: Okay, the next one is from Aicha: “I have a friend who likes to read teen mags (the shit ones) such a Boop, Tiger, the freaking list goes on, and when she purchased Girlfriend (!!) I borrowed it JUST FOR THE TWILIGHT INFO, FYI and after reading the article (if you can even call it an article) it seemed to me that they had no idea on what they were talking about, or rather, writing about. Do you think that they write these sort of things just to feed their readers' hunger ? It doesn't even seem like they have read the books, is this a good influence on the girls. I personally don't think so because this is probably the source of all the fan girls madness.” I happen to agree—not the source—not the only source, but this doesn’t help.

Joy: No, I think she’s very right about how a lot of these you know, reporters—quote, quote, quote—they don’t have to read the books; they don’t have to know diddly-squat. That’s why we get the same questions over and over again.

Isabel: Cuz no one knows anything about anything.

Joy: Cuz they don’t do their research. And we’ve talked about this before, not necessarily in regards to Twilight, but why does every reporter ask Rob about his hair? It’s because they don’t watch the other interviews. They don’t care. It pisses me off. But anyway, like she said, these reporters, they don’t have to know what they’re talking about. They just write what the girls wanna hear, and that’s it. You know? So I think she’s very right. But yeah, I don’t think it’s 100% the source of all the madness but it just feeds it. It’s fuel on the fire, that’s all it is. We got a question from Carol and it’s actually a question that we get a lot, so we jus figured we’d throw this in here for a second. Basically, she just wants to know who is that blond woman that we often see with Rob at events, there’s actually several blonde women that he goes around with.

[Laughter]

Joy:—Not that he’s a man-whore, or anything. But generally it’s either his sister or his agent, Stephanie Ritz. So that’s kind of it. We get that question a lot, so I just figured we’d throw that in there. But you know, it used to be that people were like, “Oh my gosh! Rob’s girlfriend!” It’s not his girlfriend, he doesn’t have a girlfriend.

Isabel: He doesn’t want a girlfriend.

Joy: He doesn’t want a girlfriend; he’s very smart. She also wanted to know does he have a personal assistant yet? I doubt it. He should, but he doesn’t. I don’t think, or if he does we haven’t heard anything about it, so. Anyway,

Isabel: So Carol writes to us—no sorry, Marci writes to us: “I wondered if, on the PattyCast, you would explain the Robert Pattinson Documentary? Is it going to be one of those E True Hollywood Story things? Also, the article said that this documentary is being done without Rob's management's cooperation. Does that mean that they are against the documentary being put out there or do they care either way? I was wondering because I was getting the impression from the article on your site that this was being done against their wishes. It seems really strange to me that people can tell your life story without your permission and without the facts from you! But, I guess it is sort of like these gossip magazines where they write whatever they feel will sell the magazine that week. And whoever is doing this documentary knows that Rob's life is very interesting to a lot of people right now and knows it will be a much watched show.” Yeah, we have spoken to the producers. I’ve spoken to her, personally, and she assures me that it’s a high-quality documentary about his life, but I just—we wanted to do our own homework about this, so we contacted Nick Frenkle and asked him because they were saying that they had cooperation of his management, or his people, or whatever, and he responded to us and said that Rob’s not being interviewed by them, and no, they don’t have his management’s cooperation. So, I spoke with the producer again, and they said that they were doing it with his agent in the UK, and they still wanted our cooperation with this project. And so we said we would give them our cooperation if they were able to verify that the agent was working with them, and they haven’t gotten back to us, and I believe it’s been over a week now. So again, like we said, we’re going straight from the horse’s mouth here, from his management, who’re saying that they’re not cooperating with it. We haven’t verified with any agent of Rob’s that he is actually cooperating with them, so right now our post about it still stands, I suppose. Proceed with caution if we were you, about this documentary. What do you girls think?

Janna: I agree.

Joy: Yeah, I agree. We definitely did our homework on this, but we don’t have all the information complete yet. But we don’t want you to think that we’ve just forgotten about it because a couple people did wonder, “What is this all about?” You know, and we don’t wanna be like, whistle-blowers, or anything, and tattletales. We just want the fans to be cautious so we are proceeding with caution, and we’re still talking in contact with these people, and we’ll give more information when it comes. But yeah, like Isabel said, just proceed with caution if you hear anything more about this.

Isabel: Yeah, so that’s about it, about that. Victoria asks next, “i would like to ask you guys what you think what will happen to the cast after Twilight?” I really don’t know I think this is a question for more Joy, what do you think? Cuz I don’t really know much about the actors.

Joy: Yeah, well, I mean, aside from Rob—we all know Rob’s gonna continue to do all sorts of great stuff, or hide in a cave, either one—from what I know, a lot of these actors, they’ve already got careers behind them, so it’s not like they’re just gonna disappear. And I don’t think any of them are necessarily in danger of being typecast. Kristen Stewart, obviously, has a huge body of work under her belt already, so I’m sure she’ll continue to go on and do stuff. When I was at the convention, Peter Facinelli talked about how he’s still working on Nurse Jackie, which is an HBO show, and Billy Burke, I believe his wife just had a baby, so he’s really busy. Kellan and Ashley are working on stuff, so they’re not gonna disappear and I can’t say, “In the future they will do this and this,” I have no clue. But I don’t think that they’re gonna disappear unless it’s by choice—unless they just decide they want to. But from what I could see, they’ve all got stuff lined up. So that would be my answer to you.

Isabel: Okay, that’s a great answer. Good thing that you answered that.

[Laughter]

Isabel: Okay, Christine asks, “Do the fakers on twitter, etc. get on your nerves?” The fakes don’t really get on my nerves because I don’t really look at them. It’s my choice whether I wanna go there or not. I think they’re ridiculous and no one believes it, but what gets me more on Twitter is the spam. But anyway, what do you guys think?

Joy: Yeah, I think what annoys me most is the people that fall for it. No matter how many times we say, “Rob does not have a twitter!” They’re like, “Oh my gosh! I found Rob’s Twitter!” And it’s like, “Nooo!” It drives me crazy. And I guess it kind of annoys me that people feel like they—how can I say this nicely—it annoys me that there are assholes out there who want to dupe people into thinking that they are Robert Pattinson. I just think that’s a really low thing to do, to go and pretend to be a celebrity. You know? What kind of people do that?

Isabel: And get people’s information from that?

Joy: Exactly. That really annoyed me. I think it’s really what kind of lit a fire under us at first.There was that “Official” Robert Pattinson MySpace, quote unquote. That was asking for girls’ phone numbers and personal addresses, and I was like, “No. That is not cool.” And that’s when we started going on patrol, and talking to his management, and everything, but it doesn’t—like you said, it doesn’t really bother me per se because I don’t follow them, so I don’t see what they say. I just think it’s stupid. I just feel sorry for people who get duped by it.

Isabel: Yeah, I do too.

Joy: Cuz they don’t listen or pay attention to what we say, but whatever!

[Laughter]

Joy: I’m kidding.

Isabel: No they really don’t. Okay, our last reader, who wants to do this one?

Joy: Janna does!

[Laughter]

Joy: I like to volunteer Janna for stuff.

Janna: Why thanks! Anna says: “earlier you guys were asked what team you were on, Edward's or Jacob's. I wanted to know which you guys thought would be better for Bella. I'm 100% team Edward, but personally I think she might be better off with Jacob, so she can live a semi-normal life and die and be human, but Edward would also give her immortality. I guess it all depends on what Bella wants, but what do you guys think would be better for her? Just by reading about her character, not weather Edward is cuter—-”

[Laughter]

Janna: Edward is so cute! Okay, I’m sorry! “Or Jacob wont turn her into a vampire. Which do you think is better for her? Tough question, I had to think it through a couple of times, but I'm going to have to lean toward Jacob.”

[Laughter]

Janna: Ana I can honestly say, I’ve never thought about this. So I don’t really have a—

[Laughter]

Joy: I thought you had a serious answer.

Janna: I do, from my own life experiences—and I have had similar experiences—I think sometimes opting for normalcy just won’t do, and it will leave you wondering what might have been, so I live by—

Isabel: I would go for Edward.

Janna: Yeah! I’ve never lived my life safely. I don’t plan to. So yeah, go for the vampire gold, dude.

Isabel: Plus, he has a lot of money. If you’re bored you can just go places and do things. It’s not like you’ve gotta fix bikes to entertain yourself.

Janna: He’s rich, he’s hot—

Joy: Yeah, everyone wants a rich guy.

Janna: Come on! Come on!

Isabel: And you know what? It all works out well, because now he’s in love with her daughter. So, spoiler alert!

Joy: Creepy, creepy! Can I just put a plug in for the Imprint podcast? I love them. It like—seriously, this is for all you Twilight fans who listen to us and think, “They don’t talk about Twilight enough.” Go listen to Imprint. If you go to Twilight Scource.com, their podcast is so hysterical. I’m totally addicted it. You know, Matt and Andrew and the girls from MuggleNet, they’re awesome. And we don’t talk a lot about Twilight. Macly—

[Laughter]

Isabel: Macly?

Joy: Mainly because I’m the only Twilight fan here and you girls are haters—

Isabel: Hey, I’m not a hater! I’m an equal opportunity lover. I just choose to like other things!

Janna: I choose to—

Joy: But seriously, go check out Imprint at TwilightSource.com.

Isabel: Matt and Andrew are awesome so I would go check it out even without listening to it.

Joy: Don’t like abandon us completely. Don’t forget to keep listening to us, too, but they’re awesome.

Isabel: They’re awesome, I love them.

Joy: But I know a lotta people follow us and they’re like, “You don’t talk enough about Twilight and New Moon!” We try, but we’re technically not a Twilight podcast: we’re a Rob podcast. So if you need a little bit more Twilight in your life, go check out Imprint. That’s all I got, that’s my public service announcement for the day.

Isabel: Alright, I don’t think we have a Tom Sturridge Reference for today, do we?

Janna: Darth Vader can do—I’ll do a Darth Vader one.

Isabel: Yeah, you should. Go ahead and do that.

Joy: I’m so excited.

Janna: What should I say?

Joy: Tom I am your father!

Isabel: You should say something like, “Tom is pregnant with Rob’s baby” Or something. But then we’ll probably start a rumor, and that will be bad

Joy: If we say it, then it must be true.

Isabel: You should say that Tom Sturridge is still the coolest cat ever.

Janna: (As Darth Vader) Helloooo.

[Laughter]

Isabel: You can’t laugh, Joy!

Joy: I’m sorry, I’m sorry!

[Laughter]

Joy: I’ll take my microphone off.

Janna: Hello Pattycasters. This is Darth Vader and I have a message. The Tom Sturridge Reference of the Day: “I am awesome!”

[Laughter]

Janna: I was so close! And that is all I have to say about that

Joy: Oh, Janna.

Janna:(normally) So network news is light this go around. It’s kind of the calm before the storm, if you will. We prepare fro the boys to arrive into America all at once and begin blazing a tour all around the US for their summer tours. Take a moment to catch up on all of the fabulous recaps and articles, and we have great pictures on the network site. All of the sites are re-vamped and ready for the action that’s about to take over. Sam Bradley has wrapped up his tour supporting Thriving Ivory as of last week in Connecticut. He had a great run around the East Coast and the Southern States. I’m sure he was trying to get as much southern hospitality in as possible, cuz he’s made it no secret he has a soft-spot for the South. He did quite the news media blitz, actually, while traveling for the tours. If you haven’t read the articles or seen the various news clips that we’ve put up on the websites, he’s very entertaining. He always puts a smile on all of our faces, so go check those out. He gets dressed as laurels this week before appearing at the Hillside Festival in Ontario, and that is July 26th, and then it’s on to Twi-Con 2009 in Dallas. As we mentioned, Sam will be performing on numerous occasions during Twi-con and then of course he’ll be a part of the infamous Triple Threat After-show party at Poor David’s. Also, congratulations to Jemma; she is the winner of Sam Bradley’s signed album. She sent us an amazing drawing of everyone’s favorite Brit Pack, which—I don’t know about everyone else—is currently my laptop wallpaper cuz I’m in love with Marcus the Madhatter drawing. She did the greatest Marcus Madhatter drawing I’ve ever seen.

Joy: It’s so cute.

Janna: Speaking of Marcus, he has designed an order in March, on the way just in time for his upcoming mini-tour. According to his Twitter, he’s going to have posters, t-shirts, and a new live recording available at his shows that we’re really excited about and we’re also getting word that an online store should be up and running soon. Next up for Marcus performing-wise is Twi-Con. He doesn’t have anything before then so we’re really looking forward to seeing him perform at Twi-Con for the first time. He also has a show with Bobby at Poor David’s. I believe this is the 31st and of course the after show party that’s taking place on the 1st and 2nd of August, and we’re looking forward to seeing him. We can’t wait to see what’s in store for us and him in Dallas. Last but not least, Bobby Long. Latest news from London is that Bobby is officially on Facebook. We have the site link up for your viewing pleasure on our network site. He says he feels stupid keeping his official MySpace active with the latest information on his tour dates and the venue information—kind of the specifics, and of course he’s got the music player spinning. He’s gonna put new songs up on that. The word is is that his new primary method of communication with the fans is gonna be his Facebook, with his new blogs and photographs, and he’s gonna try to make some special comments. So Bobby is of course getting ready to join us in America next week for his Dangerous Summer tour, and he is dangerous, indeed, you never know what you’re gonna get from Bobby. He is playing his long goodbye at the Albany this weekend to a sold-out crowd, and it won’t be that long until he will be bull-fighting his way through the Dangerous Summer tour. He’s gonna blaze through shows in New York, and Philly, and then it’ll be Twi-Con in Dallas, and Poor David’s, for the shows that I’m sure will be epic. He has added quite a few fall dates into the next round of his tour and he’s extended the fall leg, I guess, of his tour into winter for November and December. And though he’s quite the busy man, we’re gonna catch up with him in Dallas and we’re gonna show you what this artist is really about. So, yeah. I’ll see you there.

[Laughter]

Joy: Done.

Janna: Done.

Joy: Well, we’ve lost Isabel to the depths of the internet. We don’t know what’s happened to her. Apparently she had a fiasco or something, I don’t know. So we’re just gonna wrap up really quick.

Janna: [xx]

Joy: Isabel has died of dysentery.

[Laughter]

Janna: Yes she has.

Joy: So we’ll just finish up with a little bit of convention talk. Obviously, I was at the Atlanta convention two weeks ago, and I put up all my convention recaps on my personal blog, thetravelingteacher.org, and I’ve got tons–and by tons I mean, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of pictures of the event. Unfortunately Rob was not there, even though my dad was like, “Hey is that Pattison guy gonna be there?”—

[Laughter]

Joy: And I was like, “No, dad.” So that was really cute.

Janna: At least you had PFach. He’s really cute.

Joy: Oh my gosh, Peter Facinelli, I’m so in love with him. He is fantastic. I mean, he was totally the highlight of the convention for me. He was completely like, involved with the audience, I mean.

Janna: That’s awesome.

Joy: There was one night where he even—like it was during the concert that they were throwing and he and Billy Burke were kind of like, hosting, which meant that they were like, “Here is the next band.” It was kinda low key. But there was about twenty minutes in between where the last band wasn’t ready yet, and they had to set up and move equipment and everything. And Peter came out and entertained the crowd for over twenty minutes—

Janna: Aww!

Joy: Just like, he played games and he was like, giving people hugs and jumping over chairs to take pictures with people. It was fantastic. We were all just like, “Peter we love you!”

Janna: How cool is that?

Joy: It was really, really great. Billy Burke was fantastic. He is hilarious and kinda dirty. We were like, “This is hysterical.”

[Laughter]

Joy: So funny.

Janna: Sweet!

Joy: And then, the second day, we got Kellan Lutz, who, like I said before, is gorgeous and knows it—

Janna: [xx]

Joy: He is just—he loves the attention and was just really eating up all the fan attention, and all the girls from every age were just swooning over him. He was really funny. Ashley Greene is just this tiny little doll of a girl; she’s just so precious and so sweet—completely the opposite of Kellan, but they’re such best friends—like they actually had them on stage together the last day, and it was just like watching this brother and sister make fun of each other the whole time. It was so funny.

Janna: Oh that’s cute.

Joy: And, of course, Catherine Hardwicke was on stage the last day, and she is just phenomenal. I’m such a Catherine fangirl, and I know Isabel is, too, and she was hilarious. If you go to my blog you can read all of my reports. I’ve still got a ton of material to go through that I gathered from the convention, so I’ll be putting up more later in the week; including an interview with the Hillywood Show, who—if you haven’t heard of them, go to thehillywoodshow.com, they are the creators of the famous Twilight parody video, which is hysterical. I’ve probably seen it ten, fifteen times. It never stops being funny. They do parodies of all sorts of movies, and my friend, Allison, who writes for several Atlanta newspapers as well as awesomeTwilightmusings.com, she and I got the opportunity to interview them personally and they are just so sweet. They’re like celebrities who don’t even know they’re celebrities.

Janna: Oh, that’s cool. They’re great. So it was great, cuz the whole weekend they were dressed up as the Twilight characters, so we would just be talking and all of a sudden you’d see Edward Cullen coming at you out of the corner of your eye, and we were like, “Whoa! What’s going on?” It was so hilarious.

Janna: Oh, that’s funny.

Joy: So anyway, all of that is up on my personal blog, thetravelingteacher.org. Hundreds of pictures, unfortunately, none of Rob—because he wasn’t there—but I did get some great quotes from the other stars about him, and they’re all up there for you to see. Also, coming up is Comic-Con, obviously, which we talked about. We will be having several representatives there. None of us, unfortunately, none of the admin cuz it’s too far away and we don’t have the money. But we will have some great reps there for us, who’ll be Twittering through the event, and taking pictures, and writing up reports. So we will have a little bit more information for you up on the site later this week, so look forward to that.

Janna: Awesome.

Joy: And then, Janna is falling on her own sword and going to Twi-Con! [High-pitched scream from Janna]

Joy: Are you excited? Tell us about that.

Janna: It is true. I’m gonna be living it up in Dallas. I’m officially on staff for Twi-Con. See, Twilight fans? I’m not that bad, okay?

[Laughter]

Janna: I am actually looking forward to it. After hearing and reading Joy’s recaps of her experience, I am actually excited to see what’s in store for me. I’m gonna try to attend as many events as I can fit into my schedule. It’s gonna be pretty tight; it’s a pretty strictly run program. I’m gonna try to send in funny videos and recaps back to everyone to keep you updated, and of course, I’ll be on Twitter. Everyone’s favorite. I’ll probably be regaling you with such exclusive and exciting stories as what Kellan Lutz is wearing and what kind of sandwich I’m eating.

[Laughter]

Janna: So look for that really exciting exclusive news. Of course, you know while I’m at Twi-Con my main focus is the musical trinity of the Brit Pack, as your favorite network director. Sam Bradley, Marcus Foster, Bobby Long, all of which will be performing an homage to the movie that brought them into the spotlight, which is cool cuz usually they kind of shy away from the Twilight stuff. So, I’m looking forward to checking out their live performances. Gonna be attending their break-out sessions and listening to what they have to say, along with other people that were involved with Twilight musically, and hear what they have to say about what it’s like to be part of the Twilight soundtrack and their part of the movie. So I’m excited. I’m looking forward to that. Yeah. I know it seems like I don’t like Twilight, which—

Joy: You’re just a closeted Twilight fan.

Janna: Yeah, I’m closeted. I’m sure when I get there I’m gonna be really excited about it, and I’m gonna try and see if I can like—I know I’m gonna be able to get into the vampire ball because apparently—phantom text-messager on my cell phone—I have no idea who this person is from London who’s text messaging me, but I want to know—I’m on somebody’s guest list, so I don’t know.

Joy: That’s awesome. And kind of creepy.

Janna: So I have no friggin’ idea what that means, but I do know I’m gonna be wearing some fabulous 80’s attire at the vampire ball. I’m going for it, buds.

Joy: That’s awesome.

Janna: So anyway, look for me there. I promise my snark is worse than my bite. I’m super-friendly, I guarantee we’ll have a blast together, so come find me and we’ll hang out.

Joy: Yay!

Janna: Yay!

Joy: Well, I guess that’s it. Doesn’t look like Isabel’s coming back. I think she’s completely lost today, so I guess we’ll say goodbye. Thanks for listening. I always forget what she says at the end—

[Laughter]

Janna: I think don’t we say our names?

Joy: Yeah, do it as Darth Vader

Janna: Oh, wait, yeah. Goodbye from Isabel.

Joy: Okay, so goodbye from Joy.

Janna: And goodbye from Janna. (As Darth Vader): And goodbye from me, as well.

[Laughter]